SAA v EAA?

I jsut picked this up on another group. Comments?


" Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 01:19:00 -0000
From: "Nicholas Cafarelli"
Subject: SAA may go away

I received the message below and thought I should share it with the group.

An example of the information available from the SAA is at this link:

http://www.sportaviation.org/magazin...mer/canopy.pdf

Here is the message which implies the SAA may disappear:

Message: 1
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 18:21:44 -0000
From: "Patrick Panzera"
Subject: SAA

I'm sorry if you receive multiple copies of this, as I'm sending this
out to every e-mail list I belong to.
I BEG that you do likewise, as there is a real concern here. This is
not spam nor any form of chain letter.

I belong to several Experimental Aviation e-mail lists and have,
throughout the years, heard a common complaint that the EAA is
not supporting Experimental Aviation like we would expect it to.

But there is another organization out there, the SAA, that IS doing
as EAA use to do. Like the EAA, the SAA was founded by Paul Poberezny
(who is currently the President), and is a "grass roots" experimental
aviation resource.

http://www.sportaviation.org/

Over the past weekend I heard a rumor that they might be shutting
down, due to lack of interest.

I sent them an e-mail and here's part of the reply:
(my question was specific to renewal)

"The Board will be meeting next month to determine the future
direction of the organization. Until that final decision has been
made, we have elected not to accept any renewals for 2006."

So if I may be so bold, it's time for us to collectively to PUT-UP OR
SHUT THE HECK UP!

If you are a current member, please send a letter of support and
recruit 5 new members, today!

If you are NOT a member, then BECOME ONE!!! RIGHT NOW!!! There's no
excuse.

The infrastructure is in place. The staff is on-board. Everything is
in place for the SAA to be everything you want or need it to be. The
ONLY thing lacking is YOUR SUPPORT!.

Without your support, SAA may be gone, soon. Although I'm a loyal
member of the EAA and feel that the direction they are taking is
beneficial to general aviation as well as sport aviation and SP/LSA
(and they certainly have my support with all of that), their return
to grass-roots Experimental Aviation is just not going to happen, no
matter how many letters we send.

If we want to belong to an organization that's dedicated to people
like you, building stuff with your own hands, in your own garage,
even if it's just dreaming about taking on such a project, it's time
to stop complaining about the EAA and actually DO SOMETHING!!!

Pat"



Dan D.

SSA is a squabble between Paul and his Son Tom, the old guard and the EAA
as it exists today. The SAA article on canopies example listed below is
nothing more than a reprint from Sport Aviation issue of April 1992 without
proper attribution.

They are having problems as the old guard dies off, so do the donations that
support SAA. Even Ray Scholler cannot support the SAA like he once did as
he lost the publishing contracts for EAA publications. It is ironic that
Ray made the EAA what it is today by early support in printing the EAA
magazines. Without him, EAA would have been just another little group like
AAA.


--
Cy Galley
EAA Safety Programs Editor
Always looking for ideas and articles for EAA Sport Pilot


".Blueskies." wrote in message
...
I jsut picked this up on another group. Comments?


" Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 01:19:00 -0000
From: "Nicholas Cafarelli"
Subject: SAA may go away

I received the message below and thought I should share it with the group.

An example of the information available from the SAA is at this link:

http://www.sportaviation.org/magazin...mer/canopy.pdf

Here is the message which implies the SAA may disappear:

Message: 1
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 18:21:44 -0000
From: "Patrick Panzera"
Subject: SAA

I'm sorry if you receive multiple copies of this, as I'm sending this
out to every e-mail list I belong to.
I BEG that you do likewise, as there is a real concern here. This is
not spam nor any form of chain letter.

I belong to several Experimental Aviation e-mail lists and have,
throughout the years, heard a common complaint that the EAA is
not supporting Experimental Aviation like we would expect it to.

But there is another organization out there, the SAA, that IS doing
as EAA use to do. Like the EAA, the SAA was founded by Paul Poberezny
(who is currently the President), and is a "grass roots" experimental
aviation resource.

http://www.sportaviation.org/

Over the past weekend I heard a rumor that they might be shutting
down, due to lack of interest.

I sent them an e-mail and here's part of the reply:
(my question was specific to renewal)

"The Board will be meeting next month to determine the future
direction of the organization. Until that final decision has been
made, we have elected not to accept any renewals for 2006."

So if I may be so bold, it's time for us to collectively to PUT-UP OR
SHUT THE HECK UP!

If you are a current member, please send a letter of support and
recruit 5 new members, today!

If you are NOT a member, then BECOME ONE!!! RIGHT NOW!!! There's no
excuse.

The infrastructure is in place. The staff is on-board. Everything is
in place for the SAA to be everything you want or need it to be. The
ONLY thing lacking is YOUR SUPPORT!.

Without your support, SAA may be gone, soon. Although I'm a loyal
member of the EAA and feel that the direction they are taking is
beneficial to general aviation as well as sport aviation and SP/LSA
(and they certainly have my support with all of that), their return
to grass-roots Experimental Aviation is just not going to happen, no
matter how many letters we send.

If we want to belong to an organization that's dedicated to people
like you, building stuff with your own hands, in your own garage,
even if it's just dreaming about taking on such a project, it's time
to stop complaining about the EAA and actually DO SOMETHING!!!

Pat"



Dan D.

Why does it have to be "SAA v EAA"??? Anybody CAN belong to more than
one organization at a time. SAA does not have dues. It is strictly
voluntary (pay what you think is fair and can afford). SAA is exactly
like I remember EAA during the 70s and 80s...geared a lot more to
homebuilt low and slow airplanes. The SAA annual flyins (Champaign, IL)
have been a hoot! By the way, where else would you get to ride around
on a golf cart with Paul Poberezny and HOOT Gibson the astronaut and ask
endless questions about advice for breaking in new cylinders on an old
Continental A-65???

Scott



..Blueskies. wrote:
I jsut picked this up on another group. Comments?


" Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 01:19:00 -0000
From: "Nicholas Cafarelli"
Subject: SAA may go away

I received the message below and thought I should share it with the group.

An example of the information available from the SAA is at this link:

http://www.sportaviation.org/magazin...mer/canopy.pdf

Here is the message which implies the SAA may disappear:

Message: 1
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 18:21:44 -0000
From: "Patrick Panzera"
Subject: SAA

I'm sorry if you receive multiple copies of this, as I'm sending this
out to every e-mail list I belong to.
I BEG that you do likewise, as there is a real concern here. This is
not spam nor any form of chain letter.

I belong to several Experimental Aviation e-mail lists and have,
throughout the years, heard a common complaint that the EAA is
not supporting Experimental Aviation like we would expect it to.

But there is another organization out there, the SAA, that IS doing
as EAA use to do. Like the EAA, the SAA was founded by Paul Poberezny
(who is currently the President), and is a "grass roots" experimental
aviation resource.

http://www.sportaviation.org/

Over the past weekend I heard a rumor that they might be shutting
down, due to lack of interest.

I sent them an e-mail and here's part of the reply:
(my question was specific to renewal)

"The Board will be meeting next month to determine the future
direction of the organization. Until that final decision has been
made, we have elected not to accept any renewals for 2006."

So if I may be so bold, it's time for us to collectively to PUT-UP OR
SHUT THE HECK UP!

If you are a current member, please send a letter of support and
recruit 5 new members, today!

If you are NOT a member, then BECOME ONE!!! RIGHT NOW!!! There's no
excuse.

The infrastructure is in place. The staff is on-board. Everything is
in place for the SAA to be everything you want or need it to be. The
ONLY thing lacking is YOUR SUPPORT!.

Without your support, SAA may be gone, soon. Although I'm a loyal
member of the EAA and feel that the direction they are taking is
beneficial to general aviation as well as sport aviation and SP/LSA
(and they certainly have my support with all of that), their return
to grass-roots Experimental Aviation is just not going to happen, no
matter how many letters we send.

If we want to belong to an organization that's dedicated to people
like you, building stuff with your own hands, in your own garage,
even if it's just dreaming about taking on such a project, it's time
to stop complaining about the EAA and actually DO SOMETHING!!!

Pat"



Dan D.

In article , Scott says...

Why does it have to be "SAA v EAA"??? Anybody CAN belong to more than
one organization at a time.

My sentiments exactly I joined SAA as soon as I heard about it.Reminds me of the
old EAA days .I still like low key aviation :-)

See ya

Chuck ( SAA #708)S