Old video of Burt Rutan and Mike Melvill demoing composite strength.

"RST" == RST Engineering writes:

RST But Grizzly, Defiant, Voyager, Space I ... marks of a snake
RST oil salesman? Fry, you suck. Oh, and Fry, how many designs
RST have YOU made that have flown? And put on the market? And
RST endured years and years of answering the same stupid
RST questions over and over? And year after year filled the tent
RST at Oshkosh with overflow crowds? Hmmm?

Popularity is now your measure of goodness? That sure isn't
engineering. I've seen a steady stream of popular and useless techs
and engineers.

Rutan is good--great--at highly experimental, bleeding edge, one-off
designs. He sucks at designing anything even partway extending
mainstream, usable designs. Just what the hell has ever happened
later in the mainstream with his pioneering work? Not much.

Space I? Damn near had disasters on one or two of the flights as I
recall. And his tilting tail "innovation" is a dead end: will never
work for orbital.

He sucks at attitude. His constant dissing of anything from NASA
disrespects the genuine accomplishments of many thousands of
engineers, techs, etc.

He also sucks at being careful, killing workers with his casual
treatment of very dangerous fuels.

I haven't designed anything that flies because guess what, Jimbo, I
don't do aeronautics. I do water resources, and in that field, I've
done a number of pioneering innovations that are still being used.
And I can damn well tell blowhard talkers from doers.

Go suck yourself, boy.
--
The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it.
~ George Orwell

Bob Fry wrote:
I do water resources, and in that field, I've
done a number of pioneering innovations that are still being used.


Any place I can read about them?

Usenet is almost a microcosm of the world at large; and in all of usenet,
you have successfully brought my kill-file count up to the fingers of one
hand.

Popularity is now your measure of goodness? That sure isn't
engineering. I've seen a steady stream of popular and useless techs
and engineers.

No. Engineering is making what you want from what you've got. It takes a
special breed of cat to do that time after time after time successfully.



Rutan is good--great--at highly experimental, bleeding edge, one-off
designs. He sucks at designing anything even partway extending
mainstream, usable designs. Just what the hell has ever happened
later in the mainstream with his pioneering work? Not much.

Like most brilliant folks, having done it once proved the point. It remains
for the plodders to replicate it for the mass market. I love R&D; I detest
production. I only do it because that puts the beans on the table. He
found another way to get the beans.



Space I? Damn near had disasters on one or two of the flights as I
recall. And his tilting tail "innovation" is a dead end: will never
work for orbital.

And your credentials for making this statement are? Your degree in
aeroengineering is from where?


He sucks at attitude. His constant dissing of anything from NASA
disrespects the genuine accomplishments of many thousands of
engineers, techs, etc.

Ever work for NASA, sonny? NASA has a lot of interpretations of their
acronym, not a lot of them positive. I got my chops for my first five years
out of school working for them under contract. Apollo 13 and the meter-foot
Mars plow isn't but the tip of the iceberg; it is all you have been allowed
to see.


He also sucks at being careful, killing workers with his casual
treatment of very dangerous fuels.

You miserable *******. You miserable lousy *******. It was just a usenet
discussion up until now. I hope your mother has recovered from the disease
she got when the soldiers invaded your country.


I haven't designed anything that flies because guess what, Jimbo, I
don't do aeronautics. I do water resources, and in that field, I've
done a number of pioneering innovations that are still being used.
And I can damn well tell blowhard talkers from doers.

Me too. I think we all know who the blowhard is in this discussion. Unless
you'd care to lead us to the place where your "pioneering innovations" have
been discussed in "****house News".

Jim

On Tue, 27 May 2008 23:15:23 -0500, Jim Logajan wrote:

While searching for videos demonstrating composite construction on Youtube,
I came across this rather dated video of Burt Rutan and Mike Melvill
demonstrating the advantages of composites over aluminum:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eUt0YnNF3o

What a crock of ****, thx for the laffs.
--
http://www.tronguy.net
(Yeppers, that's me!!)

Jim Logajan wrote:
While searching for videos demonstrating composite construction on Youtube,
I came across this rather dated video of Burt Rutan and Mike Melvill
demonstrating the advantages of composites over aluminum:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eUt0YnNF3o

My "non-metallic structures" instructor, a composites guy retired from
Douglas Aircraft, showed that video at A&P school. He told us that the
demo was bogus.

They seem to have demonstrated that aluminum is stiffer than
fiberglass per unit mass. Alert the press.

Bob K.