If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#11
|
|||
|
|||
Interesting that in the USN, anyway, only the F-4 didn't have a "nickname", at
leats while I was in, perhaps the F-8 didn't either-John???. All other jets did. When I flew the jet for 10 years, it was just the 'Phantom', where all others were 'Scooters, Dogs, Spads, SLUFs, BUFs, Hoovers, Hummers, BUGs, Turkeys, etc.. The USAF had many 'names' for the Phantom-Lead Sled, Rhino, being two I remember. P. C. Chisholm CDR, USN(ret.) Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer |
#12
|
|||
|
|||
"Pechs1" wrote in message
... Interesting that in the USN, anyway, only the F-4 didn't have a "nickname" .... Maybe I missed it, but "Vigi" (does that count as a nickname?) was all I heard, except when the nose wheel wouldn't line-up with the cat track and a spin was required - in which case it was the Elephant dance. |
#13
|
|||
|
|||
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 23:15:58 -0500, vincent p. norris
wrote: IIRC, there where two guys who came up with the original design - both named Tom. The name Tomcat came from that origin. Don't know about that, but it shouldn't be too difficult to find out if there wre two Toms. However, don't overlook the fact that Grumman fighters had been named for cats since the F4F. The name Tomcat came from that origin. Possible, I suppose, but Allen Epps' explanation of the origin of "Turkey" is widely accepted as the correct one. Yep - I agree. Maybe it's some merging of all of this.... Maybe no one really knows exactly??? Regards, vince norris |
#14
|
|||
|
|||
An early nickname for the Phantom II (remember - there was an earlier
McDonnell Phantom) was "Double Demon," a reference to the F-4's immediate McDonnell F3H Demon predecessor. -- Mike Kanze "He thinks too much. Such men are dangerous." - JULIUS CAESAR; Act I, Scene 2. "Pechs1" wrote in message ... Interesting that in the USN, anyway, only the F-4 didn't have a "nickname", at leats while I was in, perhaps the F-8 didn't either-John???. All other jets did. When I flew the jet for 10 years, it was just the 'Phantom', where all others were 'Scooters, Dogs, Spads, SLUFs, BUFs, Hoovers, Hummers, BUGs, Turkeys, etc.. The USAF had many 'names' for the Phantom-Lead Sled, Rhino, being two I remember. P. C. Chisholm CDR, USN(ret.) Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer |
#15
|
|||
|
|||
Charlie Wolf wrote in message . ..
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 23:15:58 -0500, vincent p. norris wrote: IIRC, there where two guys who came up with the original design - both named Tom. The name Tomcat came from that origin. Don't know about that, but it shouldn't be too difficult to find out if there wre two Toms. However, don't overlook the fact that Grumman fighters had been named for cats since the F4F. I've seen a reference to the early F-14 design as being "Tom's Cat" and that naturally would have lead to "Tomcat". I think the "Turkey" was based on the landing appearance but seeing as how "Tom Turkey" was already in the common vernacular, it's easy to see how maybe some LSOs could come up with "Tom Turkey" when talking about F-14s in the chute. So...um, yeah. Probably all of the above. |
#16
|
|||
|
|||
USAF F4 - "Double Ugly". Although it looked surprising clean nothing
was hanging off of it. Unfortunately when supposedly configured "clean" the inboard pylons were very rarely removed. Walt BJ |
#17
|
|||
|
|||
Didn't they name it the "turkey" because of the unreliability of the
engines it inherited from the F-111b? Those tf-30s had a tendency to flameout at times when power was needed but Navy pilots name it the "turkey" because It was a capable aircraft, but also big, heavy, somewhat underpowered |
#18
|
|||
|
|||
USAF F4 - "Double Ugly". Although it looked surprising clean nothing
was hanging off of it. Unfortunately when supposedly configured "clean" the inboard pylons were very rarely removed. Walt BJ I seem to remember the nickname "Rhino" in the eighties...... BJA |
#19
|
|||
|
|||
Interesting - but not surprising - that the "Ugly" moniker in one form or
another has been applied to so many aircraft: B-52, A-7, entire A-6 family, just about any "queer" aircraft, many tankers, most fixed-wing "cats & dogs," many non-pointy-nose birds, and so on. -- Mike Kanze "Never forget ... Being your own boss means being your own janitor." - Adam @ Home, 3/27/04 "Bryan Ashcraft" wrote in message ... USAF F4 - "Double Ugly". Although it looked surprising clean nothing was hanging off of it. Unfortunately when supposedly configured "clean" the inboard pylons were very rarely removed. Walt BJ I seem to remember the nickname "Rhino" in the eighties...... BJA |
|
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Just Another Ugly American in Cyprus | GrPrtrd8 | Military Aviation | 0 | August 13th 04 03:17 PM |
~ 8 MORE DEAD US SOLDIERS - 93 IN APRIL SO FAR - BUSH CHECKS TURKEY | MORRIS434 | Military Aviation | 0 | April 22nd 04 09:44 AM |
Germany Lost the War... So What? | robert arndt | Military Aviation | 55 | February 26th 04 08:51 AM |
Photos of Jupiter missiles being installed in Turkey - 1961 | Rusty B | Military Aviation | 3 | February 12th 04 05:37 PM |
Turkey synagogue bombers trained in Pakistan --Washington Post | Crazy Fool | Military Aviation | 2 | November 25th 03 05:39 AM |