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NATCA Going Down in Flames
fortunately knickers and kilts
are not among them. Mine should arrive this week. If you're going to wear a kilt, be sure to wear it correctly. Jose -- The monkey turns the crank and thinks he's making the music. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message ups.com... An employer not only has the right to impose a dress code on employees -- he has a DUTY to do so. Why? In our college town, we've visited restaurants where you couldn't tell the employees from the customers. College girls wearing peasant shirts that showed their tatooed butts, no name badge, and no "we're here to serve you" attitude translated into a single-visit, never to return. In our hotel, our employee dress code is relatively liberal -- but it's strictly adhered to. Our employees are required to wear either our green "Alexis Park Inn & Suites" shirts, or a (supplied) aviation themed Hawaiian shirt with a collar. In summer, khaki shorts are allowed, but never cut-offs or blue jeans, and no t-shirts. A name badge must be worn at all times. The FAA banned khaki shorts. Why do you allow them? Does it matter, since much of their work is on the phone? Hell, yes. When a guest comes onto our property, we want them to be able to tell the guards from the inmates, and we expect our employees to act professional at all times. If we expect this from hotel clerks, housekeepers, and waitresses, I don't think it's too much to ask from our "professional" air traffic controllers. Would it matter what your employees wore if your guests never saw them? |
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
Sometimes I work naked. I was writing some code a mn ago, in my underwear, but I've got a really cool boss (me) :-) --Sylvain |
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message I haven't seen any information that supports your allegation, that they (neither the union nor the employees) are using excessive and unwarranted slowdown processes. Where did you see that? "If a supervisor tries to talk with you regarding the way your are dressed, it constitutes a formal meeting," the memo reads. "Stop the conversation immediately and ask for a union representative. The same approach should be used on any other changes in your working conditions, ask for a rep immediately. I suspect they don't keep surplus union reps hanging around just in case someone needs one. If the number of "formal meetings" drastically increases, then the reps and the members both probably have to come off the scopes, requiring overtime to cover the absences. This is not a new tactic in any union environment. |
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"Ron Lee" wrote in message PS, The COMAIR pilots screwed up. Case closed. Quit trying to blame ATC or taxiways. Oh! Has the final report been published? I must have missed that! |
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wrote in message ups.com... It is the land of the FREE, If they don't like the work rules in their place of employment they are FREE to find a job elsewhere............... Some will leave. One of the effects of messing with people that are eligible to retire is a jump in retirements. |
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message ... Why not? Surely NATCA members are working under an agreement between the union and the FAA. There is no agreement. |
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If you are going to get paid for being a professional, you should dress like
a professional. When I worked ATC, it was not the white shirt and narrow tie, but dress slacks "Dockers" and sport shirts or collared golf shirts with pocket were expected with decent shoes. You never knew when there would be a tour coming through, Boy Scouts, Rotary Club, Local Pilots on a "Raincheck" program, or maybe even the US Senator or House Rep. Perception is the whole thing, look like a bum and people will think you work like a bum. BT "Jay Honeck" wrote in message oups.com... As of today, the FAA has imposed a dress code on their employees, requiring that they (*gasp!*) NOT where flip-flops and cut-offs to work! Amazingly, believe it or not, these employees are now actually going to be required to wear (*Oh-mi-God*) DRESS PANTS and a DRESS SHIRT to work! In the face of this terrible affront, the controller's union, NATCA, has decided to do the following, quoted from AvWeb: ************************************************** *********************************************** What's A Union To Do? While the battle inside the towers and centers may (to outsiders) have its whimsical side, the practical impact of the new regime could be significant. NATCA appears determined to fight each and every violation of the new rules cited by management. In a memo to controllers at a major center (we do know which one), union leaders are urging members to exercise their rights to the letter. "If a supervisor tries to talk with you regarding the way your are dressed, it constitutes a formal meeting," the memo reads. "Stop the conversation immediately and ask for a union representative. The same approach should be used on any other changes in your working conditions, ask for a rep immediately. The Agency has a legal obligation to comply." But the memo also says the overall battle won't be won by individual members discussing their fashion challenges. "One person alone can not change the course the agency has decided to take," the memo says. "However, collectively we can unpave their course and start a new road. I and the rest of your elected leaders will need your help now more than ever." ************************************************** *********************************************** Unbelievable! They're actually going to fight against their employer for dictating what they must wear to work... Apparently their right to look like bums in a professional setting has been violated, and the union is going on the offensive! Whenever we sit and wonder why the Bush Administration has been pushing ATC privatization so hard, all we must do is read articles like this one. Imagine -- these folks are up in arms because they have to wear a dress shirt to work! Can you imagine what must go on in those towers when a supervisor actually needs something of substance accomplished? The next time the union sends me one of their whiny spam-mails, asking for help in the fight against privatization, I'm going to send them this post. These so-called "civil servants" have done themselves (and us) a terrible disservice by choosing this ridiculous issue to fight about, and they have only increased the probability that we will see ATC privatization. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message ups.com... When I take a CAP squadron or Boy Scout Troop on a tower tour, I expect the controllers to look professional -- period. What does it say when we require the kids to be in uniform, but the controllers are wearing flip-flops and cut-off shorts? In what tower did you see controllers wearing flip-flops and cut-off shorts? |
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"Emily" wrote in message ... Sometimes I work naked. Hey, as long as we don't graduate to communicating with you with telescreens... The human body is a beautiful thing. |
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