Cirrus Acquired By Chinese Company

On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 06:13:14 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:

Jim Logajan writes:

The statistics indicate that the pilots that have accidents in Cirrus
aircraft are generally not low time pilots, so any allegations about the
marketing are irrelevant.

What is the average number of hours that a Cirrus accident pilot has?

Aw, the troll at work! Let's tune in and see if Jim swallows the hook,
line and/or sinker
--
hierophant

http://heremypants.weebly.com/

"Jim Logajan" wrote

Mxsmanic wrote:
The same old ****.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please, I'm _Beggin'_ you!

Don't respond to this douche bag. He has had a very bad effect on the
group, and it almost looks like it is starting to come back.

If people fall for this troll's style again...
Forget about any recovery.

-- Jim in NC

On Thu, 3 Mar 2011 01:02:12 -0500, Morgans wrote:

"Jim Logajan" wrote

Mxsmanic wrote:
The same old ****.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please, I'm _Beggin'_ you!

Don't respond to this douche bag. He has had a very bad effect on the
group, and it almost looks like it is starting to come back.

If people fall for this troll's style again...
Forget about any recovery.

-- Jim in NC

I would think Jim has most of his time wrapped up in hiring attorneys
and seeking out forgers. But I could be wrong
--
hierophant

http://heremypants.weebly.com/

hierophant wrote:
I would think Jim has most of his time wrapped up in hiring attorneys
and seeking out forgers. But I could be wrong

You are wrong. :-)

On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 19:05:02 -0700, Robert Barker wrote:

"Bob Moore" wrote in message
. 153.163...
"Robert Barker" wrote
The Chinese bought part of GM so I don't buy them. Now Cirrus is off
my wish list.

Not too well informed...eh?

"But Buick, which sold more vehicles in China than it did in the U.S. last
year, faces an uphill battle on its home turf. Its U.S. sales have tumbled
46 percent since 2002. And the slide continues so far this year."

This is a 2007 news article.

Bob Moore


2010 article.
http://articles.economictimes.indiat...ations-tim-lee

They only have 1% for now. They don't invent or innovate on their own -
independent thought is discouraged. So they bring foreign companies in, let
them operate for a bit, nationalize them, then become your next competitor.
It's happened over and over and over.

Robert, there is no arguing with someone who has a chunk on his
shoulder for this set of foreign nationals or that set of FNs. I could
point out that there are dozens of countries that have run their
businesses in similar fashion but why get in the way of your chosen
funset?

As far as Cirrus is concerned, it is a fine aircraft which can well
become a better one and a less expensive alternative mutually. The
only way that can happen in these days and times is for the Chinese to
step in; sure beats the Koreans!

The Chinese now own a piston-engine manufacturer, two VLJ airframes, a
kit company and several other technologies. Can any American company
say the same?

If we rely on Wichita and Florida to fashion our aircraft, we will
continue to be in a spiral of increasing prices (including operating
expenses) and decreasing performance.

The entry of the Chinese in the GA market is a good thing imho; it was
bound to happen and now it has.
--
hierophant

http://heremypants.weebly.com/

In rec.aviation.piloting hierophant wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 19:05:02 -0700, Robert Barker wrote:

"Bob Moore" wrote in message
. 153.163...
"Robert Barker" wrote
The Chinese bought part of GM so I don't buy them. Now Cirrus is off
my wish list.

Not too well informed...eh?

"But Buick, which sold more vehicles in China than it did in the U.S. last
year, faces an uphill battle on its home turf. Its U.S. sales have tumbled
46 percent since 2002. And the slide continues so far this year."

This is a 2007 news article.

Bob Moore


2010 article.
http://articles.economictimes.indiat...ations-tim-lee

They only have 1% for now. They don't invent or innovate on their own -
independent thought is discouraged. So they bring foreign companies in, let
them operate for a bit, nationalize them, then become your next competitor.
It's happened over and over and over.

Robert, there is no arguing with someone who has a chunk on his
shoulder for this set of foreign nationals or that set of FNs. I could
point out that there are dozens of countries that have run their
businesses in similar fashion but why get in the way of your chosen
funset?

As far as Cirrus is concerned, it is a fine aircraft which can well
become a better one and a less expensive alternative mutually. The
only way that can happen in these days and times is for the Chinese to
step in; sure beats the Koreans!

The Chinese now own a piston-engine manufacturer, two VLJ airframes, a
kit company and several other technologies. Can any American company
say the same?

If we rely on Wichita and Florida to fashion our aircraft, we will
continue to be in a spiral of increasing prices (including operating
expenses) and decreasing performance.

The entry of the Chinese in the GA market is a good thing imho; it was
bound to happen and now it has.

What really happens will depend a lot on how much is moved to China and
what the FAA does.

Lot's of countries make airplanes, but when is the last time anyone saw
an APM 30 Lion on the local airplane dealers lot?


--
Jim Pennino

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Martin Hotze writes:

Am 02.03.2011 03:59, schrieb Robert Barker:
The Chinese bought part of GM so I don't buy them. Now Cirrus is off my
wish list.

they (Chinese) also own most of the US debt. What do you wanna do now? :-)

Haha. As if he could ever afford a Cirrus anyway. To avoid Chinese good
now you have to live in a cave...hmmm...maybe that's why Bin Laden does?

--
Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.
-- Mark Twain

"Robert Barker" writes:


They don't invent or innovate on their own
-
independent thought is discouraged.

I think YOU need to think independently of talk radio.

--
In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments; there are
consequences.
~ Robert G. Ingersoll

On 2011-03-03, Robert Barker wrote:
Based on the quality of all the other crap that comes from China. Sure, it
will be made in the US... For now. How long till they do like they have
historically done and move everything over there and "refine" the design.

Cheap crap is cheap crap wherever it is made, it is not something that
the Chinese have a monopoly on. Having had a number of PCBs made
in China, I can say the quality and reliability of those were top notch.

In rec.aviation.piloting wrote:

Lot's of countries make airplanes, but when is the last time anyone saw
an APM 30 Lion on the local airplane dealers lot?

"Local airplane dealers lot"? Maybe I should get out more, but I've never
seen such a thing, much less an APM 30 Lion on it.

--
Frank Stutzman
Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl"
Boise, ID