Hawker vs. Glider Midair - with photo!

john smith schrieb:

Is that the reminants of a carbon fiber spar protruding from the top
left side of the nose ahead of the windscreen?

They say so.

Stefan

On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:47:14 +0200, Stefan
wrote:

john smith schrieb:

Is that the reminants of a carbon fiber spar protruding from the top
left side of the nose ahead of the windscreen?

They say so.

Stefan


While I have no idea how the glider pilot survived this, looking at
the pics, it seems as though the pilot is a very lucky lady too.

z

john smith wrote:
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Stefan wrote:

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Wow. I wonder if the control surfaces would still have been
controllable from the cockpit if the plane was equipped with a
fly-by-wire system instead of conventional mechanical controls.

On 30 Aug 2006 18:05:28 -0700, "rps" wrote:


john smith wrote:
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Stefan wrote:

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4683/11dy6.jpg
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/5328/5oy9.jpg
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2266/dscf0034vm0.jpg
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2240/14nx6.jpg


Wow. I wonder if the control surfaces would still have been
controllable from the cockpit if the plane was equipped with a
fly-by-wire system instead of conventional mechanical controls.

I allegedly maintain a couple of 800's. Hawkers are built
hell-for-stout and as you indicate are an old-fashioned "mechanical"
airplane.

Been that way since the early '60's (first flew in '62?)

Did you hear about the one that survived the SAM strike?

TC

"Stefan" wrote

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4683/11dy6.jpg
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/5328/5oy9.jpg
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2266/dscf0034vm0.jpg
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2240/14nx6.jpg

Holy Moley!

I got goose bumps, and shivers, looking at those pictures. I, for one,
think that it was nothing short of amazing that the pilot got out OK, and
that the controls didn't lock up.

Some prayers of thanks are due, if the people involved are at all religious,
I think.

Again, WoW!
--
Jim in NC

On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 15:41:06 -0400, "Darkwing"
theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote in
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http://www.nevadaappeal.com/article/...0025/-1/REGION


While pilot Annette Saunders handled her Hawker 800XP admirably after
colliding with the glider, why she obviously failed to give way is a
mystery.

Larry Dighera wrote:
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 15:41:06 -0400, "Darkwing"
theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote in
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http://www.nevadaappeal.com/article/...0025/-1/REGION


While pilot Annette Saunders handled her Hawker 800XP admirably after
colliding with the glider, why she obviously failed to give way is a
mystery.

Here is one mo
http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/mi...rt&cachetime=0

-Nik

Larry Dighera wrote:

http://www.nevadaappeal.com/article/...0025/-1/REGION


While pilot Annette Saunders handled her Hawker 800XP admirably after
colliding with the glider, why she obviously failed to give way is a
mystery.

Hey, Larry, this is right up your alley, but for the fact there is no
military involvement. Are you going to be as hard on the Hawker Chick as
you would on a Fighter Chick? ;


Jack

On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 04:58:41 GMT, Jack wrote in
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Larry Dighera wrote:

http://www.nevadaappeal.com/article/...0025/-1/REGION


While pilot Annette Saunders handled her Hawker 800XP admirably after
colliding with the glider, why she obviously failed to give way is a
mystery.

Hey, Larry, this is right up your alley, but for the fact there is no
military involvement. Are you going to be as hard on the Hawker Chick as
you would on a Fighter Chick? ;

Jack, it's not about being hard on anyone except those who deserve it.
It appears, that Parker willfully chose to descend into congested
terminal airspace without the required clearance, and his decision
resulted in a ghastly fatality. It is that deliberate disregard of
regulations, and Gen. Rosa's lack of punishment, to which I object.

While Ms. Saunders may be guilty of neglect, hopefully it wasn't
willful neglect.

All those involved were incredibly fortunate.

Larry Dighera wrote:

While pilot Annette Saunders handled her Hawker 800XP admirably after
colliding with the glider, why she obviously failed to give way is a
mystery.

Don't you have to *see* the other aircraft before you can give way? As
has been mentioned by other posters in this thread, if the glider
didn't have a transponder the jet's TCAS wouldn't have seen it, and the
glider's profile might make it hard to spot. Why do you automatically
assume the Hawker pilot is at fault?