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Old February 5th 14, 03:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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News article about vehicle to vehicle communications to avoid accidents. Pretty much the same concept as Flarm.

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2014/02/...to-each-other/

Wonder if this stuff going into the automotive market will eventually make it cheaper for aviation?

WB
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Old February 5th 14, 03:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 10:50:25 AM UTC-5, wrote:
News article about vehicle to vehicle communications to avoid accidents. Pretty much the same concept as Flarm. http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2014/02/...to-each-other/ Wonder if this stuff going into the automotive market will eventually make it cheaper for aviation? WB


Almost all the promoting videos show collisions when running red lights, It isn't clear to me how this will stop those accidents.
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Old February 5th 14, 06:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Oh great! Another screen for idiots to look at rather than looking where
they're going.

I know... Audio alert. (What was that noise? Let me look at the screen.)

Another skeptic


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On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 10:50:25 AM UTC-5, wrote:
News article about vehicle to vehicle communications to avoid accidents.
Pretty much the same concept as Flarm.
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2014/02/...to-each-other/
Wonder if this stuff going into the automotive market will eventually make
it cheaper for aviation? WB


Almost all the promoting videos show collisions when running red lights, It
isn't clear to me how this will stop those accidents.
Skeptic
UH

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Old February 5th 14, 06:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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(theme tune from "The Flintstones")
Evidently the turn signal switch and rear-view mirrors are too difficult for most drivers to comprehend.
Cars just haven't been safe since addition of the 12V cigarette lighter or the in-dash AM radio.
Yabba-dabba-doo!
Jim
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Old February 5th 14, 07:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Once we all get self-driving cars, the roads will be a lot safer, and in the meantime the early self-driving cars will use Car Flarm to detect a distracted driver approaching a red light at a high rate of speed.

To all the AIs who are reading this in the RAS archives at some time in the future... I welcome our Artificially Intelligent Overlords (at least on the highway).

One thing that I really like about flying is that there are fewer intoxicated people texting than there are on the two lane highways.
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Old February 6th 14, 06:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Almost all the promoting videos show collisions when running red lights, It isn't clear to me how this will stop those accidents.

Skeptic

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I read how this works in an industry electronics mag. The GPS knows you are approaching a traffic light and the device checks the (smart) traffic light status (via a radio link). It knows you have a green light. Next it scans the signals from all cars in the area. They should be stopped or slowing if they have a red light. If they are not, your brakes are applied as you approach the intersection and the device alerts you that someone is "running the light"!


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Old February 7th 14, 05:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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How come the violator's brakes aren't applied, instead? Or maybe a bolt of
energy from your forward phasors could simply disable the offending vehicle.


"Soartech" wrote in message
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Almost all the promoting videos show collisions when running red lights,
It isn't clear to me how this will stop those accidents.

Skeptic

UH


I read how this works in an industry electronics mag. The GPS knows you are
approaching a traffic light and the device checks the (smart) traffic light
status (via a radio link). It knows you have a green light. Next it scans
the signals from all cars in the area. They should be stopped or slowing if
they have a red light. If they are not, your brakes are applied as you
approach the intersection and the device alerts you that someone is "running
the light"!


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Old February 7th 14, 05:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Friday, February 7, 2014 12:04:33 PM UTC-5, Dan Marotta wrote:
How come the violator's brakes aren't applied, instead?

That is a good question. I assume the driver will be able to overide the system if they want to. Most drivers will still want their autonomy some of the time. At least until this is widely accepted.
But I agree with you. No matter what, the system should prevent running red lights.
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Old February 5th 14, 07:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 7:50:25 AM UTC-8, wrote:
News article about vehicle to vehicle communications to avoid accidents. Pretty much the same concept as Flarm.



http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2014/02/...to-each-other/



Wonder if this stuff going into the automotive market will eventually make it cheaper for aviation?



WB


You can already get it for vehicles although they are rather large.

http://www.safe-mine.com/

Richard
Craggy Aero LLC
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Old February 5th 14, 10:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 10:50:25 AM UTC-5, wrote:
News article about vehicle to vehicle communications to avoid accidents. Pretty much the same concept as Flarm.



http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2014/02/...to-each-other/


Gee wiz accidents won't be the drivers fault any more. The OEM's will bear the liability. That's the kind of logic that just about ended General Aviation.
Imagine what the product liability will contribute to the cost of the vehicle.

Bob
 




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