Pilot's Political Orientation

"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
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"Gene Seibel" wrote in message
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I believe what I believe. You believe what you believe. Few of us will
change our minds, unless we have no convictions to start with.

You don't change your mind when someone offers a better
explanation/argument?


Sadly, most people do not.

Quite...it is the ability to differentiate such things that they use to call
"Wisdom".

Tom
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"Wisdom is the integration of Knowledge." -- Thought to be attributed to
Aristotle

"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
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"Gene Seibel" wrote in message
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I believe what I believe. You believe what you believe. Few of us will
change our minds, unless we have no convictions to start with.

You don't change your mind when someone offers a better
explanation/argument?


Sadly, most people do not.

Obviously true, since they still vote for Democrats. :-)

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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"Gene Seibel" wrote in message
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I believe what I believe. You believe what you believe. Few of us
will
change our minds, unless we have no convictions to start with.

You don't change your mind when someone offers a better
explanation/argument?


Sadly, most people do not.

Obviously true, since they still vote for Democrats. :-)

Problem is the Republican's actions belie their arguments.

Success in governing requires more than one point of view. It takes
ALL of us thinking and acting upon our beliefs. The collective wisdom
is greater than any ONE person's wisdom, and even greater than the sum
of all the people's wisdom. That is what MAKES a democracy work.

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message ...
"Gene Seibel" wrote in message
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I believe what I believe. You believe what you believe. Few of us will
change our minds, unless we have no convictions to start with.

You don't change your mind when someone offers a better
explanation/argument?

Possibly, if I thought it was better. At 53 years old I've pretty well
got my mind set on what I think is better. Others may not agree.
Doesn't mean they are wrong. With TV, books and internet, there aren't
a whole lot of ideas out there that have been kept secret. Most of
what I hear is new packaging for old ideas.
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Gene Seibel
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Because I fly, I envy no one.

"Gene Seibel" wrote in message
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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You don't change your mind when someone offers a better
explanation/argument?

Possibly, if I thought it was better. At 53 years old I've pretty well
got my mind set on what I think is better.

Ummm...I think they call that "dogmatic".

Others may not agree.
Doesn't mean they are wrong. With TV, books and internet, there aren't
a whole lot of ideas out there that have been kept secret. Most of
what I hear is new packaging for old ideas.

Well, as you're probably aware, an idea is neither good nor bad because it's
old or new, but rather how well it comports with reality.

Often ideas we've heard for years are not really what we've come to believe
(our preconceived notions). For example, elsewhere in this thread Dan
Truesdale is making claims about free markets and history that are
completely bogus. I grew up "learning the same history", but found out well
out of school that what I was taught was a crock of cow poop.

One thing I notice about public schools is there is a complete lack of a
"free market of ideas" and of data as well.

Gene Seibel wrote:
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"Gene Seibel" wrote in message
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I believe what I believe. You believe what you believe. Few of us will
change our minds, unless we have no convictions to start with.

You don't change your mind when someone offers a better
explanation/argument?


Possibly, if I thought it was better. At 53 years old I've pretty well
got my mind set on what I think is better. Others may not agree.
Doesn't mean they are wrong. With TV, books and internet, there aren't
a whole lot of ideas out there that have been kept secret. Most of
what I hear is new packaging for old ideas.

This has been true for at least 2000 years, at least with respect to
things involving people. Technology has advanced dramatically, but
people are pretty much the same as they were in Biblical times.


Matt

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Gene Seibel wrote:


Possibly, if I thought it was better. At 53 years old I've pretty well
got my mind set on what I think is better. Others may not agree.
Doesn't mean they are wrong. With TV, books and internet, there aren't
a whole lot of ideas out there that have been kept secret. Most of
what I hear is new packaging for old ideas.

This has been true for at least 2000 years, at least with respect to
things involving people. Technology has advanced dramatically, but
people are pretty much the same as they were in Biblical times.

Human nature hasn't really changed in a lot longer than 2000 years.

I come to this bulletin board to get info on flying, not politics.
While I know that I could skip this particular thread, I also want to
know what is going on. These pages tend toward off-topic issues
quicly and regularly. I know that by the time that message # 20
(usually much earlier) is posted, the whole subject is completely
"OT".

Don't you people know that nothing you say is going to change any
minds? Everyone has his/her agenda to promote, and nothing said is is
going to change anyone's mind. This from a lawyer who deals with this
type of stuff every day. Please tell me why this is not a) an utter
waste of time of and b) by people who apparantly have way too much
time on their hands.

Don't you people know that nothing you say is going to change any
minds?

Don't you know nothing you can say is going to change anyone's posting
habits?