Methods for altitude changes

In rec.aviation.piloting Mxsmanic wrote:
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That's because it is one of the things all real pilots have to learn
early in their training to fly real airplanes.

So, where do I set it in the Baron for, say, 9000 feet? You must have learned
how do determine this in your training to fly real airplanes, so you should be
able to tell me where to set the lever.

In lieu of any instrumentation or a POH with a procedure, lean slowly
until maximum RPM and back off a couple of turns.


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In lieu of any instrumentation or a POH with a procedure, lean slowly
until maximum RPM and back off a couple of turns.

What's the maximum RPM, and how many turns is "a couple"? You said all real
pilots learn that, so they don't need to look anything up.

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In lieu of any instrumentation or a POH with a procedure, lean slowly
until maximum RPM and back off a couple of turns.

What's the maximum RPM, and how many turns is "a couple"? You said all
real
pilots learn that, so they don't need to look anything up.


It's all about control pressure and the sound of the engine.

Even in the sim, you trim to maintian your pitch attitude hands off, that's
all that it's there for, control pressure varys a lot in actual flight,
nothing like the sim. If you change speed, pitch or power setting and 90% of
the time you will have to retrim at least a little. So no matter what you
are doing, proper use of the trim just allows you to fly hands off.

Leaning is something most of us do by the sound of the engine unless we have
instruments to assist.

Both are easy to demonstrate in an actual flight, and would make a much
better topic for rec.aviation.student. To a certificated pilot even with the
least experience, it's much like saying teach me how to set the heater in my
car.

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Gary writes:

What you have stated here is that the control and trim simulation is
NOT completely accurate. Without control pressure, it's not even
close.

The only thing missing is the control pressure.

Exactly. And trim is only used for eliminating control pressure.

In rec.aviation.piloting Mxsmanic wrote:
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In lieu of any instrumentation or a POH with a procedure, lean slowly
until maximum RPM and back off a couple of turns.

What's the maximum RPM, and how many turns is "a couple"? You said all real
pilots learn that, so they don't need to look anything up.

maximum
adj.
1. Having or being the greatest quantity or the highest degree that
has been or can be attained: maximum temperature.
2. Of, relating to, or making up a maximum: a maximum number in a series.

couple
adj.
Two or few

If your engine has a propensity to run hot, you might want to back off
three turns.

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Maxwell writes:

Exactly. And trim is only used for eliminating control pressure.

Trim is also used by many autopilots.

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If your engine has a propensity to run hot, you might want to back off
three turns.

The mixture lever does not turn.

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Maxwell writes:

Exactly. And trim is only used for eliminating control pressure.

Trim is also used by many autopilots.

Trim is used by many autopilots to eliminate, say it with me.... control
pressure. That server doesn't want to fight an out of trim condition anymore
than a pilot does.

Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Trim is used by many autopilots to eliminate, say it with me.... control
pressure.

No, trim is used by many autopilots to maintain the selected altitude,
heading, or track. Autopilots don't care about control pressure.

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If your engine has a propensity to run hot, you might want to back off
three turns.

The mixture lever does not turn.

Then back off the appropriate number of notches.

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