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Flying from North America to Hawaii
Is this easily done - that is, are there islands in between I can hop to? Or
do I need big tanks, long range, and a bladder in the cabin (and a pee tube) to do it? Marc Remove nospam to reply privately |
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There are islands every 100 miles between US and Hawaii. They are not on
the maps. However, they are off limits because they are breeding grounds for the endangered Puka. It is rumored that Amelia landed on one and may still be there. |
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"COLIN LAMB" wrote in message thlink.net... : There are islands every 100 miles between US and Hawaii. They are not on : the maps. However, they are off limits because they are breeding grounds : for the endangered Puka. : : It is rumored that Amelia landed on one and may still be there. : : : That is why the Puka shell necklaces are so expensive and rare... |
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Flying from North America to Hawaii
In article uNIKh.27097$DN.24284@pd7urf2no,
Marc Erickson wrote: Is this easily done - that is, are there islands in between I can hop to? Or do I need big tanks, long range, and a bladder in the cabin (and a pee tube) to do it? Have you looked at a map? Does it occur to you that just "an island" is *NOT* sufficient? That you need 'services' -- like being able to buy fuel -- as well? Do you think any such island would be big enough to have a post office? Are there any such places listed in the USPS zip-code directory? What _other_country_ might such an island be a part of? Do you have the right kind of comm radios? Do you have _enough_engines_? Can you 'glide' 1500+ miles after a failure? Is your plane certified for ETOPS? Are _you_ multi-engine rated? Do you have a co-pilot? Have you computed *how*many*hours* you'll be in the air without a break? are you *REALLY* that stupid? |
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Flying from North America to Hawaii
On Mar 18, 10:25 am, (Robert Bonomi)
wrote: Have you looked at a map? Does it occur to you that just "an island" is *NOT* sufficient? That you need 'services' -- like being able to buy fuel -- as well? Do you think any such island would be big enough to have a post office? Are there any such places listed in the USPS zip-code directory? What _other_country_ might such an island be a part of? Do you have the right kind of comm radios? Do you have _enough_engines_? Can you 'glide' 1500+ miles after a failure? Is your plane certified for ETOPS? Are _you_ multi-engine rated? Do you have a co-pilot? Have you computed *how*many*hours* you'll be in the air without a break? are you *REALLY* that stupid? Not need to resort to flaming. I assumed when he mentioned "islands" in between that he would have been naturally referring to islands with sufficient facilities to handle his hypothetical trip. IF it is even a hypothetical trip. He might be trying to call BS on a friend's story, or might just be curious. Nothing about his post led me to believe that he was straping himself in getting ready to head to Hawaii but just checking with us one last time. Cut the man some slack . Mike Gaskins |
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("COLIN LAMB" wrote)
There are islands every 100 miles between US and Hawaii. They are not on the maps. However, they are off limits because they are breeding grounds for the endangered Puka. It is rumored that Amelia landed on one and may still be there. Puka-puka... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pukapuka "Although the island features a well maintained airstrip, flights are very infrequent as the island is closer to Samoa than to the rest of the Cook Islands. The five hour flight from Rarotonga operates only once every six weeks or so." http://www.cookislands.org.uk/pukapuka.html "The destruction caused to Pukapuka by Cyclone Percy. These photographs were taken by the crew of a New Zealand Air Force Orion which overflew the island a few days after the cyclone struck." http://www.cookislands.org.uk/pukapics.html "Pukapuka is one of the remotest places on earth. It's closer to Samoa than it is to the capital island, Rarotonga. It has its own language and customs and other Cook Islanders say its main asset is beautiful girls. The Island's name derives from the puka tree (right) which is commonplace." Montblack :-) |
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"Mike Gaskins" wrote ... Not need to resort to flaming. I assumed when he mentioned "islands" in between that he would have been naturally referring to islands with sufficient facilities to handle his hypothetical trip. IF it is even a hypothetical trip. He might be trying to call BS on a friend's story, or might just be curious. Nothing about his post led me to believe that he was straping himself in getting ready to head to Hawaii but just checking with us one last time. Cut the man some slack . You're wrong Mike. It was a dumb question and shows the utter failure of the modern elementary school system. I think all of us have gone out for a ten thousand dollar hamburger at Amelia's at one time or another. Rich |
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In article . com,
"Mike Gaskins" wrote: On Mar 18, 10:25 am, (Robert Bonomi) wrote: Have you looked at a map? Does it occur to you that just "an island" is *NOT* sufficient? That you need 'services' -- like being able to buy fuel -- as well? Do you think any such island would be big enough to have a post office? Are there any such places listed in the USPS zip-code directory? What _other_country_ might such an island be a part of? Do you have the right kind of comm radios? Do you have _enough_engines_? Can you 'glide' 1500+ miles after a failure? Is your plane certified for ETOPS? Are _you_ multi-engine rated? Do you have a co-pilot? Have you computed *how*many*hours* you'll be in the air without a break? are you *REALLY* that stupid? Not need to resort to flaming. I assumed when he mentioned "islands" in between that he would have been naturally referring to islands with sufficient facilities to handle his hypothetical trip. IF it is even a hypothetical trip. He might be trying to call BS on a friend's story, or might just be curious. Nothing about his post led me to believe that he was straping himself in getting ready to head to Hawaii but just checking with us one last time. Cut the man some slack . Mike Gaskins The mainland/Hawaii leg is the longest overwater leg on the planet. There are NO intervening islands (perhaps an aircraft carrier or two -- just try taking off if you land on one). |
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"Marc Erickson" wrote in message news:uNIKh.27097$DN.24284@pd7urf2no... Is this easily done - that is, are there islands in between I can hop to? Or do I need big tanks, long range, and a bladder in the cabin (and a pee tube) to do it? Marc In 2003 Carol Ann Garratt flew around the world in her Mooney M20J in honor of her father who had Lou Gehrig's disease. Her longest leg was from California to Hilo, Hawaii, just under 20 hours and about 2300 NM. She had two extra fuel tanks inside the cockpit, one in the seat beside her and a 55-gallon tank behind her. Total hours flown: 300, and 36,667 nautical miles. Leave your ma a lock of your hair. Oh, and google "so you want to be a ferry pilot" to psyche yourself up just before leaving. |
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Flying from North America to Hawaii
Actually, there are dozens of islands between North America and Hawaii. The
problem is that they are all within a few miles of the North American coast. They run up and down the Coast. The one I am most familiar with is about 100 feet offshore. Down in California, some of the islands are a dozen or two miles off shore. If you were a really good helicopter pilot and planned well, you might be able to follow one of the shipping lanes with a diesen powered helicopter and bargain diesel from the ships crew - if you can find a ship spaced ever few hundred miles. In the Dole California-to-Hawaii air race, at least one airplane was denied entry into the race by the FAA because the calculated fuel (using the pilot's numbers) was only sufficient to get a bit more than half way across. The pilot said he was expecting tail winds to make up the difference. It does not take a lot of intelligence to bring up a map and look to see if there are any islands on the way. That is what the marines did when they invaded Grenada. They went to the local travel agent in St. Georges, once they landed and got all the maps they could get their hands on. |
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