Aircraft Carrier naming

In article ,
on Sat, 17 Jan 2004 19:35:14 -0600,
George Shirley attempted to say .....

Mike Kanze wrote:

I've always been bothered by this trend, even if the namesake has been dead
for a while.

Unfortunately I suspect this was / still is a necessary "evil" for the Navy
to get the force it needs. Especially concerning those ships named for
congressional bigwigs.

And I know exactly which ship type I'd like named for SEN Clinton.
(Actually, a whole class of ships honoring the likes of Hilary Clinton, Pat
Schroeder, Barbara Boxer, Nancy Pelosi . . . and of course Monica Lewinski.)
g


Either tramp steamers or ships that go down.

Tramp Steamers.

Ships that go down (submarines) are named after fish !

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"Tank Fixer" wrote in message
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Ships that go down (submarines) are named after fish !

Actually, only three of them are currently named for fish/aquatic animals,
the Seawolf (SSN-21), the Dolphin (AGSS-555) and the Cutthroat (LSV-2) that
I can find. Most are named for cities and states:

http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/...etop.html#subs

You can check out each class of submarine from this website.

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Gizmo

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:58:57 -0500 (EST), in rec.aviation.military.naval
(T Bird) wrote:

And how about another USS Yorktown . Served on CV-10 . 2-63 to 6-65 .
Good duty , Two WestPacs , Loved my homeport . Long Beach .

I'm still holding out for a new LANGLEY.

Tank Fixer wrote:

In article ,
on 17 Jan 2004 15:20:41 -0800,
Bob attempted to say .....


Anybody else bothered by the naming of US aircraft carriers after
people who were still living at the time? I'm sure that Carl Vinson
(CVN-70) & John C. Stennis (CVN-74) did good thing but to have a
carrier named after them? I wish the US Navy would go back to naming
carriers after famous battles & ships. Would it not be great to have
in the fleet carriers again named USS Hornet, Lexington, Saratoga,
Oriskany. It would honor the sailors that served on these great ships.



AMEN

No ship should be named for a living person.



While I would normally agree, I can think of two exceptions.

I think it was an appropriate when the Navy named a destroyer after Adm.
Arleigh Burke and a supply ship after Bob Hope while they were still alive.

ALV

Would it not be great to have
in the fleet carriers again named USS Hornet, Lexington, Saratoga,
Oriskany. It would honor the sailors that served on these great ships.
BRBR

You bet, along with the Shangri-La....
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

Fleet oilers:
USS Chevron-Texaco, USS Valero, USS Arco, USS Beacon, USS Rotten Robbie,
etc.

Arco was purchased by BP a few years ago - would USS Arco get a name
"upgrade"?

Regards,
Frank

"Mike Kanze" wrote in message
...
Wait until the Navy starts accepting commercial sponsors in order to
increase their budget. We could be looking at the USS Taco Bell some day.
Before you laugh, don't forget that local and state governments are
already
renaming public sport and civic centers after commercial investors as a
source of income. Lets face it, nothing is sacred when it comes to money.

A concept that may work well for getting the ship built, but that founders
(pun intended) if the ship is heavily damaged or sunk.

In the civilian world, consumer products companies weigh this risk all the
time when choosing their media. Think of the risk / reward trade-off for
plastering your brand's logo on a race car and you'll get the idea.

******

On a humorous note, would anyone in r.a.m.n. wish to contribute to a list
of
ship classes with corresponding prospective commercial name sponsors?

For example:

Fleet oilers:
USS Chevron-Texaco, USS Valero, USS Arco, USS Beacon, USS Rotten Robbie,
etc.

(I think you get the idea.)

--
Mike Kanze

"Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on
society."

-Mark Twain


"John Fitzpatrick" wrote in message
...
Wait until the Navy starts accepting commercial sponsors in order
to
increase their budget. We could be looking at the USS Taco Bell some
day.
Before you laugh, don't forget that local and state governments are
already
renaming public sport and civic centers after commercial investors as a
source of income. Lets face it, nothing is sacred when it comes to
money.


Fitz
"Bob" wrote in message
om...
Anybody else bothered by the naming of US aircraft carriers after
people who were still living at the time? I'm sure that Carl Vinson
(CVN-70) & John C. Stennis (CVN-74) did good thing but to have a
carrier named after them? I wish the US Navy would go back to naming
carriers after famous battles & ships. Would it not be great to have
in the fleet carriers again named USS Hornet, Lexington, Saratoga,
Oriskany. It would honor the sailors that served on these great ships.

You bet, along with the Shangri-La....
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

AND America

The USNS Bob Hope is not a navy warship . It is U.S. Gov \ Navy ship .
Commanded by a Civ Capt. from M.S.C. With a civ crew from M.S.C. or can
be contracted out to private company to run . I spent 15 yrs with M.S.C.

T Bird wrote:
The USNS Bob Hope is not a navy warship . It is U.S. Gov \ Navy ship .
Commanded by a Civ Capt. from M.S.C. With a civ crew from M.S.C. or can
be contracted out to private company to run . I spent 15 yrs with M.S.C.

Yes I know that USNS Bob Hope is not a warship. My point being that the
ship (and the ship class) was named while Mr. Hope still alive.

ALV

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 10:45:55 -0500 (EST), (T Bird) wrote:

The USNS Bob Hope is not a navy warship . It is U.S. Gov \ Navy ship .
Commanded by a Civ Capt. from M.S.C. With a civ crew from M.S.C. or can
be contracted out to private company to run . I spent 15 yrs with M.S.C.

So? We all know this....

It's still a US Navy vessel, still completely relevant to the discussion of
Navy ship naming.

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