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  #171  
Old June 9th 07, 12:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Noel
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In article ,
"Blueskies" wrote:

If this special clean gas w/o alcohol is brought to the airport and kept
there, doesn't it pretty much miss the point of
the autogas STC? The whole idea was to be able to use normal autogas in these
old low compression engines.


I thought one objective was to avoid using the 100LL in engines that were prune
to lead fouling.

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  #172  
Old June 9th 07, 02:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
David Lesher
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Bob Noel writes:


If this special clean gas w/o alcohol is brought to the airport and kept
there, doesn't it pretty much miss the point of
the autogas STC? The whole idea was to be able to use normal autogas in these
old low compression engines.


I thought one objective was to avoid using the 100LL in engines that were prune
to lead fouling.


I thought that autogas was popular for several reasons:

a) lead
b) price
.....

Gas bought by a FBO or club should be free of highway taxes but
I suspect will instead incur aviation fuel taxes...

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  #173  
Old June 9th 07, 04:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
RST Engineering
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And if you thought lead was bad, those prunes REALLY gum up the works.

{;-)

Jim

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dance like no one is watching."
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"Bob Noel" wrote in message
...



I thought one objective was to avoid using the 100LL in engines that were
prune
to lead fouling.

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  #174  
Old June 9th 07, 04:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Denny
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I thought one objective was to avoid using the 100LL in engines that were prune
to lead fouling.


Yeah, we are into the summer time haul the grandkids routine where I
burn oodles of avcrap because I am fueling faster than I can haul it
and I am fueling at strange airports and some are really strange...
Fat Albert's engines are already grumping at me about it...

denny

  #175  
Old June 9th 07, 04:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Noel
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In article ,
"RST Engineering" wrote:

And if you thought lead was bad, those prunes REALLY gum up the works.


aw ... nuts. :-(

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  #176  
Old June 9th 07, 10:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
clare at snyder.on.ca
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On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 11:46:29 GMT, "Blueskies"
wrote:


"David Lesher" wrote in message ...
"Peter Dohm" writes:


Given the issue with alcohol, and the fact it is injected at the
last stage - truck loading -- why aren't the STA owners such as EAA
running campaigns to set up procedures for FBO's to procure untainted
autogas?


I really doubt that the terminal operators are so ignorant as to make that a
problem.


Ha!


OTOH, there are some real problems for the FBO to overcome. One FBO owner,
who I know, stopped selling gasolene several years ago--saying that he
sometimes suspected that he lost more to evaporation than he pumped.



That's a "selling autogas" problem;
vice "finding un-Ethenol'ed autogas to sell" one.

Agreed the first may be an issue..

BUT if you have a gaggle of STA'ed aircraft owners based there and
you but not evry EatHerAndGetGas sells what they want and need....




If this special clean gas w/o alcohol is brought to the airport and kept there, doesn't it pretty much miss the point of
the autogas STC? The whole idea was to be able to use normal autogas in these old low compression engines.


No, the point was to be able to use gasoline with less lead than the
currently available 100LL AvGas whick gives many older engines
"morning sickness" due to lead deposits making valves sluggish.


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  #177  
Old June 10th 07, 01:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Barrow[_4_]
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"Bob Noel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Blueskies" wrote:

If this special clean gas w/o alcohol is brought to the airport and kept
there, doesn't it pretty much miss the point of
the autogas STC? The whole idea was to be able to use normal autogas in
these
old low compression engines.


I thought one objective was to avoid using the 100LL in engines that were
prune
to lead fouling.


Wouldn't prunes give them gas?


  #178  
Old June 10th 07, 04:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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RST Engineering wrote:
And if you thought lead was bad, those prunes REALLY gum up the works.

{;-)

Jim


Nope. He was talking about an old engine. It needs the prunes to keep
the works from gumming up. I think most of the guys here know that. 8*)
  #179  
Old June 10th 07, 06:04 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Morgans[_2_]
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"Ernest Christley" wrote

Nope. He was talking about an old engine. It needs the prunes to keep
the works from gumming up. I think most of the guys here know that. 8*)


I wonder if prunes work on old engines, like they work on me?

It would give the engine exhaust a certain.....
Aroma! ggg
--
Jim in NC


  #180  
Old June 10th 07, 12:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Blueskies
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"Morgans" wrote in message news

"Ernest Christley" wrote

Nope. He was talking about an old engine. It needs the prunes to keep the works from gumming up. I think most of
the guys here know that. 8*)


I wonder if prunes work on old engines, like they work on me?

It would give the engine exhaust a certain.....
Aroma! ggg
--
Jim in NC


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