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Does anyone use the Club Class?
Here in the US, we are slowly inching towards metric....
The US tried to go metric in the early *'80s.... No one cared.. it wasn't a big deal...it didn't work. It's not like no one here uses it.... it's everywhere. *US..isolationist? |
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On Jan 28, 1:22*pm, Jody wrote:
Here in the US, we are slowly inching towards metric.... yes, but at a very metered pace... Brad |
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It might not be that way furlong.
Jim On Jan 28, 1:31*pm, Brad wrote: On Jan 28, 1:22*pm, Jody wrote: Here in the US, we are slowly inching towards metric.... yes, but at a very metered pace... Brad |
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Here in the US, we are slowly inching towards metric....
yes, but at a very metered pace... Brad here we have: flying speed in knots driving speed kilometers/hours vertical speed feet/minutes flying distance in nautical miles driving distance in kilometers fuel capacity in liters fuel consumption gallon per hours please do not inch towards anything different, even at metered pace!!! I just got used to the systems and finally they work just fine!!! |
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On 28 Jan, 18:40, glider12321 wrote:
*US..isolationist?- In general yes, except when we would prefer that they stay out of things, e.g. invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, and taking over Manchester United Football (Soccer) and Cadbury's chocolate in the UK. I understand that only about 25% of US Citizens even hold passports! Derek Copeland |
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 10:15:00 -0800, delboy wrote:
Just about every country in the World runs Club Class competitions, except for the US. It's one of the most popular and highly competitive national competition in the UK. I think he meant running Club Class to the letter of the IGC rules, including the IGC list of eligible gliders and and using the IGC handicaps. We certainly don't do that: the BGA handicaps differ from the IGC ones, and I don't mean merely that 100 is the BGA baseline compared with 1.00 for the IGC. The list of elegible gliders is a lot smaller too: Glider BGA IGC LS-8 100 n/a ASW-20 98 1.08 LS-7 97 1.07 Pegase 95 1.04 Std Cirrus 90 1.00 ASW-15 89 0.99 H-201 Libelle 89 0.98 Club Libelle 86 0.96 G-102 Astir 85 n/a SZD Junior 83 n/a PW-5 81 n/a (same as a Ka-6e) Most countries have gone metric, and we have been buying motor fuel in litres for years in the UK. What suddenly caused petrol to be sold in litres was Maggie Thatcher waking up to the approach of the £2.00 gallon. She thought this would be a political no-no so suddenly we were sold it in litres to disguise the rising price. And what a mess the UK made of metrication when they followed Canada, Australia and NZ down that path. We all watched our predecessors and avoided their mistakes, but did the UK do that? Nooooo! They refused to learn from our experience and made a right cock-up of the process, not only making all the mistakes we'd discovered but inventing a few new ones as well. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | |
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Shiver me timbers!
It's hard to fathom. These figures are in a league of their own. Could liter drinking. Arrr. Jim (lad) |
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On Jan 29, 12:13*am, Martin Gregorie
wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 10:15:00 -0800, delboy wrote: Just about every country in the World runs Club Class competitions, except for the US. It's one of the most popular and highly competitive national competition in the UK. I think he meant running Club Class to the letter of the IGC rules, including the IGC list of eligible gliders and and using the IGC handicaps. We certainly don't do that: the BGA handicaps differ from the IGC ones, and I don't mean merely that 100 is the BGA baseline compared with 1.00 for the IGC. The list of elegible gliders is a lot smaller too: Glider * * * *BGA * *IGC LS-8 * * * * *100 * *n/a ASW-20 * * * * 98 * *1.08 LS-7 * * * * * 97 * *1.07 Pegase * * * * 95 * *1.04 Std Cirrus * * 90 * *1.00 ASW-15 * * * * 89 * *0.99 H-201 Libelle *89 * *0.98 Club Libelle * 86 * *0.96 G-102 Astir * *85 * *n/a SZD Junior * * 83 * *n/a PW-5 * * * * * 81 * *n/a *(same as a Ka-6e) Most countries have gone metric, and we have been buying motor fuel in litres for years in the UK. What suddenly caused petrol to be sold in litres was Maggie Thatcher waking up to the approach of the £2.00 gallon. She thought this would be a political no-no so suddenly we were sold it in litres to disguise the rising price. And what a mess the UK made of metrication when they followed Canada, Australia and NZ down that path. We all watched our predecessors and avoided their mistakes, but did the UK do that? Nooooo! They refused to learn from our experience and made a right cock-up of the process, not only making all the mistakes we'd discovered but inventing a few new ones as well. * -- martin@ * | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org * * * | The list of glider types elegible for UK club class competitiions is not more restricted restricted than the IGC list - in theory it is the reverse as the UK definition includes all IGC eligible gliders as well as all gliders with a UK handicap of 98 or less. The relevant paragraph in the 2009 competition handbook reads: "10.2. Club Class. Water ballast must not be carried, scores are handicapped, and gliders listed in Appendix 1 with a Speed Index not exceeding 98 before additional performance enhancement handicap increments, are eligible to enter. In addition, all gliders listed on the current IGC Club Class handicap list are eligible. All gliders will fly at their allotted BGA Speed Index." John Galloway |
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On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 03:37:19 -0800, johngalloway wrote:
The list of glider types elegible for UK club class competitiions is not more restricted restricted than the IGC list - in theory it is the reverse as the UK definition includes all IGC eligible gliders as well as all gliders with a UK handicap of 98 or less. Apologies for a bit of shocking writing - that was what I meant to write but not what I actually wrote. I should get to bed sooner. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | |
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On Jan 28, 5:28*pm, delboy wrote:
On 28 Jan, 18:40, glider12321 wrote: *US..isolationist?- In general yes, except when we would prefer that they stay out of things, e.g. invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, and taking over Manchester United Football (Soccer) and Cadbury's chocolate in the UK. I understand that only about 25% of US Citizens even hold passports! Derek Copeland Since holding a passport is not a requirement to be a US Citizen, that really doesn't mean much! Kirk |
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