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  #61  
Old May 27th 06, 04:24 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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MarkČ wrote:

neo wrote:

Separate cockpit and passengers by wall with no door, no window, just
plane wall. No mechanism of communication whatsover with cockpit from
passenger area. That will discourage hijacker because whatever he do,
pilot will not know.

When terrorists know that even flight staff can not talk to pilot, it
is futile to attempt hijack.



-Heck, just require that all passengers take a nice big bite of bloody meat
as they board...

Muslim terrorists don't like that idea all too well because it means they
don't get the 70 virgins...among other things...


As long as it's a nice beef steak that shouldn't matter to either Jewish
or Muslim passengers. Terrorists or not.

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Old May 27th 06, 04:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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That's good one Roy, it really gave me a laugh...

Monk

Roy Smith wrote:
In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:
On 24 May 2006 06:33:22 -0700, "neo" wrote in
s.com::

That will discourage hijacker because whatever he do,
pilot will not know.


The pilot won't know unless the potential hijacker uses his cell phone
to communicate with the airline with a threat of executing a flight
attendant in the cabin.


No can do. All the cell phones were turned off before the flight took
off, per the safety briefing.


  #63  
Old May 27th 06, 06:41 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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Yep, much prefer the idea of arming everybody on the plane
and letting the lunatics, terrorists and choose to be
peaceful or dead. We still need to screen for bombs and
such.

And I would enjoy the nude scheme only if I was flying on a
plane with a girls college volleyball team.



"Morgans" wrote in message
...
|
| "(PeteCresswell)" wrote in message
| ...
| Per "Jim Macklin"
:
| Motorcycles
| crash at high speed and properly dressed riders live to
heal
| and ride again.
|
| Maybe it's semantics... but when I hear "crash" I think
of impact - as
| opposed
| to just going down at speed and sliding to a stop.
|
| Right. Riders that stop suddenly in a motorcycle crash,
are nearly always
| killed instantly. If they slide, they live, unless they
hit something while
| sliding.
|
| Also, given that motorcycles seldom erupt into a fireball,
that also helps
| survival rates, compared to airplanes.
|
| Speed also has a good bit to deal with survival.
Airliners that crash at
| flight speeds, or even half of that, are likely to have 8
times the kinetic
| energy, or more, than a motorcycle.
|
| But then we both know that Jim was just being
argumentative, right?
| --
| Jim in NC
|
|


  #64  
Old May 27th 06, 06:42 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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cellphones, they were told about the other planes.



"DevilsPGD" wrote in message
...
| In message
| "(PeteCresswell)" wrote:
|
| After the Twin Towers got hit it took how long.... 45
minutes? for the
| passengers in the plane that went down in Pennsylvania to
catch on.
|
| How would they catch on? Was the plane equipped with TVs?
|
| If not, I wouldn't have expected those passengers to catch
on at all.
|
| --
| "I think women and sea men don't mix"
| -- Smithers, Simpsons


  #65  
Old May 27th 06, 11:11 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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Per "Mark?" mjmorgan(lowest even number :
Muslim terrorists don't like that idea all too well because it means they
don't get the 70 virgins...among other things...


-----------------------------------------------------
After getting nailed by a daisy-cutter bomb, Osama makes his way to the pearly
gates.

There, he is greeted by George Washington.

"How dare you attack the nation I helped conceive!" yells Mr. Washington,
slapping Osama in the face.

Patrick Henry comes up from behind.

"You wanted to end the Americans' liberty, so they gave you death!" Henry
punches Osama on the nose.

James Madison comes up next, and says "This is why I allowed the Federal
government to provide for the common defense!" He drops a large weight on
Osama's knee.

Osama is subject to similar beatings from John Randolph of Roanoke, James
Monroe, and 65 other people who have the same love for liberty and America.

As he writhes on the ground, Thomas Jefferson picks him up to hurl him back
toward the gate where he is to be judged.

As Osama awaits his journey to his final very hot destination, he screams "This
is not what I was promised!"

An angel replies "I told you there would be 72 Virginians waiting for you.
What did you think I said?"
-----------------------------------------------------
--
PeteCresswell
  #66  
Old May 28th 06, 03:39 AM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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(PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per "Mark?" mjmorgan(lowest even number :
Muslim terrorists don't like that idea all too well because it means
they don't get the 70 virgins...among other things...


-----------------------------------------------------
After getting nailed by a daisy-cutter bomb, Osama makes his way to
the pearly gates.

There, he is greeted by George Washington.

"How dare you attack the nation I helped conceive!" yells Mr.
Washington, slapping Osama in the face.

Patrick Henry comes up from behind.

"You wanted to end the Americans' liberty, so they gave you death!"
Henry punches Osama on the nose.

James Madison comes up next, and says "This is why I allowed the
Federal government to provide for the common defense!" He drops a
large weight on Osama's knee.

Osama is subject to similar beatings from John Randolph of Roanoke,
James Monroe, and 65 other people who have the same love for liberty
and America.

As he writhes on the ground, Thomas Jefferson picks him up to hurl
him back toward the gate where he is to be judged.

As Osama awaits his journey to his final very hot destination, he
screams "This is not what I was promised!"

An angel replies "I told you there would be 72 Virginians waiting for
you. What did you think I said?"




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  #67  
Old May 28th 06, 04:49 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Sat, 27 May 2006 18:11:02 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)"
wrote in ::

As Osama awaits his journey to his final very hot destination, he screams "This
is not what I was promised!"

An angel replies "I told you there would be 72 Virginians waiting for you.
What did you think I said?"



The Muslim religion is the fastest growing religion per capita in the
United States!

Allah or Jesus? by Rick Mathes

Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for
maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training
session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the
Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of
their belief systems. I was particularly interested in what the
Islamic Imam had to say.

The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete
with a video. After the presentations, time was provided for
questions and answers. When it was my turn, I directed my question to
the Imam and asked, "Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand
that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy
war] against the infidels of the world. And, that by killing an
infidel, which is a command to all Muslims, they are assured of a
place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the definition
of an infidel?"

There was no disagreement with my statements and without hesitation,
he replied, "Non-believers!"

I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers
of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith
so they can go to Heaven. Is that correct?"

The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command
to that of a little boy who had just gotten caught with his hand in
the cookie jar. He sheepishly replied, "Yes."

I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine
Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith
or Dr. Stanley ordering Protestants to do the same in order to go to
Heaven!"

The Imam was speechless.

I continued, "I also have a problem with being your friend when you
and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me. Let
me ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah who tells you
to kill me in order to go to Heaven or my Jesus who tells me to love
you because I am going to Heaven and He wants you to be with me?"

You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame.
Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the
'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with Rick's way of
dealing with the Islamic, Imam and exposing the truth about the
Muslim's beliefs.

This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathes, is a well-known
leader in prison ministry.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/allah.asp
  #68  
Old May 28th 06, 09:19 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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There are reasons for Roman genocide, they haven't changed,
just the players.



"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
...
| On Sat, 27 May 2006 18:11:02 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)"

| wrote in ::
|
| As Osama awaits his journey to his final very hot
destination, he screams "This
| is not what I was promised!"
|
| An angel replies "I told you there would be 72 Virginians
waiting for you.
| What did you think I said?"
|
|
| The Muslim religion is the fastest growing religion per
capita in the
| United States!
|
| Allah or Jesus? by Rick Mathes
|
| Last month I attended my annual training session that's
required for
| maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the
training
| session there was a presentation by three speakers
representing the
| Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who
explained each of
| their belief systems. I was particularly interested in
what the
| Islamic Imam had to say.
|
| The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam,
complete
| with a video. After the presentations, time was provided
for
| questions and answers. When it was my turn, I directed my
question to
| the Imam and asked, "Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but
I understand
| that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy
jihad [Holy
| war] against the infidels of the world. And, that by
killing an
| infidel, which is a command to all Muslims, they are
assured of a
| place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the
definition
| of an infidel?"
|
| There was no disagreement with my statements and without
hesitation,
| he replied, "Non-believers!"
|
| I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight.
All followers
| of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not
of your faith
| so they can go to Heaven. Is that correct?"
|
| The expression on his face changed from one of authority
and command
| to that of a little boy who had just gotten caught with
his hand in
| the cookie jar. He sheepishly replied, "Yes."
|
| I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to
imagine
| Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of
your faith
| or Dr. Stanley ordering Protestants to do the same in
order to go to
| Heaven!"
|
| The Imam was speechless.
|
| I continued, "I also have a problem with being your friend
when you
| and your brother clerics are telling your followers to
kill me. Let
| me ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah
who tells you
| to kill me in order to go to Heaven or my Jesus who tells
me to love
| you because I am going to Heaven and He wants you to be
with me?"
|
| You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head
in shame.
| Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the
| 'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with
Rick's way of
| dealing with the Islamic, Imam and exposing the truth
about the
| Muslim's beliefs.
|
| This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathes, is a
well-known
| leader in prison ministry.
|
| http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/allah.asp


  #69  
Old May 29th 06, 03:31 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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Brilliant idea. Sounds like a perfect way to revive general aviation.
"Don't want to fly nude in a plastic bag? Learn to fly yourself in a spam
can."

Who's going to write Boyer?

--
Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways)


"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:i%ndg.23771$ZW3.15935@dukeread04...
That is why the passengers would be supplied with form
generic zip lock body bags, they'd be thrown away after each
use. So the lavatories could be removed, any bodily waste
and fluids would be in the passenger identified bags. They
could be checked for DNA to identify terrorists, to find
smuggled drugs and as an extra service, to screen for all
known diseases and birth defects.
The zip lock bag would cover the head too, and have O2
connection, this will make the passengers breathing air even
more pure and if they get airsickness, the barf will be
completely contained, no smell, no clean-up required.

Privacy issues and modesty can be handled in two ways,
either those concerned about their privacy will just have to
wear a visual visor, like on Jordy (Star Trek NG) to show
them a virtual world or they can just be blind folded and
told they are alone.

The zip lock bags could be printed with pretty pictures in
strategic locations or just advertising...

Hooters, where our breasts are finger licking good.

Airport Annie's, all customers are first class. [That is a
sign on a massage parlor on the Wichita Airport, in a city
owned, rented building]

Viagra, don't bust a zipper.

Hefty, our passenger bags are the best. Used by more
airlines than the other brands.

Larry, The Cable Guy, now showing, don't laugh too hard or
you'll fill your bag.

Microsoft, the anti-Viagra.

Feel like an astronaut, crap in your pants.





"B A R R Y" wrote in message
. net...
| Peter R. wrote:
| Jim Macklin
wrote:
|
| Why not just require one of these actions...
| All passengers must fly NUDE.
|
| The required amount of airsickness bags on each flight
would then have to
| increase exponentially.
|
|
|
| Think of all the dark strips on the seat cushion fabric...




  #70  
Old May 29th 06, 10:54 PM posted to rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
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If it were just that easy.


"Bob Chilcoat" wrote in
message ...
| Brilliant idea. Sounds like a perfect way to revive
general aviation.
| "Don't want to fly nude in a plastic bag? Learn to fly
yourself in a spam
| can."
|
| Who's going to write Boyer?
|
| --
| Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways)
|
|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| news:i%ndg.23771$ZW3.15935@dukeread04...
| That is why the passengers would be supplied with form
| generic zip lock body bags, they'd be thrown away after
each
| use. So the lavatories could be removed, any bodily
waste
| and fluids would be in the passenger identified bags.
They
| could be checked for DNA to identify terrorists, to find
| smuggled drugs and as an extra service, to screen for
all
| known diseases and birth defects.
| The zip lock bag would cover the head too, and have O2
| connection, this will make the passengers breathing air
even
| more pure and if they get airsickness, the barf will be
| completely contained, no smell, no clean-up required.
|
| Privacy issues and modesty can be handled in two ways,
| either those concerned about their privacy will just
have to
| wear a visual visor, like on Jordy (Star Trek NG) to
show
| them a virtual world or they can just be blind folded
and
| told they are alone.
|
| The zip lock bags could be printed with pretty pictures
in
| strategic locations or just advertising...
|
| Hooters, where our breasts are finger licking good.
|
| Airport Annie's, all customers are first class. [That
is a
| sign on a massage parlor on the Wichita Airport, in a
city
| owned, rented building]
|
| Viagra, don't bust a zipper.
|
| Hefty, our passenger bags are the best. Used by more
| airlines than the other brands.
|
| Larry, The Cable Guy, now showing, don't laugh too hard
or
| you'll fill your bag.
|
| Microsoft, the anti-Viagra.
|
| Feel like an astronaut, crap in your pants.
|
|
|
|
|
| "B A R R Y" wrote in message
| . net...
| | Peter R. wrote:
| | Jim Macklin
| wrote:
| |
| | Why not just require one of these actions...
| | All passengers must fly NUDE.
| |
| | The required amount of airsickness bags on each
flight
| would then have to
| | increase exponentially.
| |
| |
| |
| | Think of all the dark strips on the seat cushion
fabric...
|
|
|
|


 




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