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Airline Pilots Fly Past Airport at 20,000'
On Feb 21, 8:46*am, "JGalban via AviationKB.com" u32749@uwe wrote:
gatt wrote: Oxygen issues maybe? * Could that happen? * Unlikely. *The passengers had no trouble remaining awake. *Several of them noticed as they flew past Hilo at cruising altitude. And no one pulled the cord? What a bunch of lazy pax. -Robert |
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Airline Pilots Fly Past Airport at 20,000'
If one pilot was male and the other female, there might be another
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Airline Pilots Fly Past Airport at 20,000'
Larry Dighera wrote:
Probably were both exhausted by a schedule that was marginally legal but ill advised. Perhaps, but it was 0900 local. Once upon a time when I was a part 135 cargo pilot, I got a call from my employer at around 0900 saying that I was needed to fly some auto parts from Shelby, NC to Cleveland, OH. She said to start getting ready and she'd call me back with the details in a half hour or so. Well, she called back about 15 minutes later saying the vendor didn't have enough of the parts to justify the flight and so it was off. That night, as I was getting ready for bed at 2330, I got another call from the dispatcher saying the flight was on again, and that I was expected at Shelby for a 0100 pickup. I needed to be at the Charlotte airport by about 1215 to make it over to Shelby on time. So off I went. Without boring you with the details, I fought some killer 60-70 knot headwinds and ice on the way up there and ended up making an intermediate fuel stop at Charleston, WV (after shooting the ILS), then into Cleveland with another ILS. After taking on more fuel, I took off again into IMC but soon climbed on top and settled in for a screaming cruise (now I had all that wind behind me). After about an hour I switched to the inboard aux tanks. I woke up when the right engine quit. As I reached over to change tanks and hit the boost, the other engine quit as well. I remember marveling at how accurately I'd leaned those engines. Anyway, the C-402 engines relit very quickly and I was on my way again with no one the wiser. I promised God I would never fall asleep flying again. I broke that promise twice more on the remainder of the flight. I touched down shortly after dawn at Charlotte. Now, was my flight time in excess of the allowable. No. And my employer could make the argument that my duty day didn't start until 2330. So what was illegal? Nothing, I guess. But I sure was a whipped pup. So the Hawaiian episode happened at 0900? I'd be very curious to see what they'd been doing for the last 48 hours. And sitting at an airport waiting in uniform doesn't constitute crew rest to me. Nor does the time spent in taxis. -- Mortimer Schnerd, RN mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com |
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Airline Pilots Fly Past Airport at 20,000'
Thanks for relating your firsthand experience.
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:18:26 -0500, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote in : That night, as I was getting ready for bed at 2330, I got another call from the dispatcher saying the flight was on again, and that I was expected at Shelby for a 0100 pickup. I needed to be at the Charlotte airport by about 1215 to make it over to Shelby on time. So off I went. Was that an FAA certificated Dispatcher? http://www.faa.gov/safety/programs_i...PI_6_1_4_O.doc http://www.fltdisp.com/TheDispatchCa...7/Default.aspx |
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Airline Pilots Fly Past Airport at 20,000'
Larry Dighera wrote:
That night, as I was getting ready for bed at 2330, I got another call from the dispatcher saying the flight was on again, and that I was expected at Shelby for a 0100 pickup. I needed to be at the Charlotte airport by about 1215 to make it over to Shelby on time. So off I went. Was that an FAA certificated Dispatcher? http://www.faa.gov/safety/programs_i...PI_6_1_4_O.doc http://www.fltdisp.com/TheDispatchCa...7/Default.aspx She was a company dispatcher. I have no idea what other credentials she held. This was back around 1990 and the company went tango uniform not three weeks later. Pity. Not only was I out of a job, I had just completed the ground school on the C-47. We had two of them and I never got to actually fly either. I did pinch a manual, however. -- Mortimer Schnerd, RN mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com |
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Airline Pilots Fly Past Airport at 20,000'
On Feb 22, 8:16*am, Paul kgyy wrote:
If one pilot was male and the other female, there might be another explanation. This explanation does not require differing sexes. From statistics, pair of homsexuals would be more likely to be having sex by the way!!! Cheers |
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Airline Pilots Fly Past Airport at 20,000'
"JGalban via AviationKB.com" u32749@uwe wrote in message news:801237d5237ee@uwe... gatt wrote: Oxygen issues maybe? Could that happen? Unlikely. The passengers had no trouble remaining awake. Several of them noticed as they flew past Hilo at cruising altitude. That would be an odd feeling. I wonder if anybody notified the flight attendants.. -c |
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Airline Pilots Fly Past Airport at 20,000'
"WingFlaps" wrote in message ... On Feb 22, 8:16 am, Paul kgyy wrote: If one pilot was male and the other female, there might be another explanation. This explanation does not require differing sexes. From statistics, pair of homsexuals would be more likely to be having sex by the way!!! "If the cockpit's a-rockin, don't bother knockin'" |
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Airline Pilots Fly Past Airport at 20,000'
"RG" == Robert M Gary writes:
RG And no one pulled the cord? What a bunch of lazy pax. What about the cabin crew. Or were they snoozing also. -- He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. For if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~ Nietzsche |
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Airline Pilots Fly Past Airport at 20,000'
"Paul kgyy" wrote in message ... If one pilot was male and the other female, there might be another explanation. They were getting leied. -c |
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