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FAA Permanently Revokes Pilot's License over ADS-B



 
 
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Old May 18th 21, 04:35 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default FAA Permanently Revokes Pilot's License over ADS-B

The parrot wasn't squawking ADS-B, that's for sure. I see an occasional
C-17 transmitting it, but it seems most military traffic isn't equipped
even today.



On 5/17/21 12:35 PM, Dan Marotta wrote:
We only did that during certain mission profiles.Â* Otherwise the parrot
was squawking.

Dan
5J


Become a military pilot...they will turn tracking off, when they
choose.


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Old May 18th 21, 07:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default FAA Permanently Revokes Pilot's License over ADS-B

On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 11:35:16 PM UTC-4, kinsell wrote:
The parrot wasn't squawking ADS-B, that's for sure. I see an occasional
C-17 transmitting it, but it seems most military traffic isn't equipped
even today.
On 5/17/21 12:35 PM, Dan Marotta wrote:
We only did that during certain mission profiles. Otherwise the parrot
was squawking.

Dan
5J


Become a military pilot...they will turn tracking off, when they
choose.

For obvious reasons I would think that most military traffic would not be ADS-B broadcasting. I certainly know the ones going into 2901 are NOT. There have been a couple of points here on this thread that are very interesting.. One was that Ole Andy is clueless about Restricted Zone operation. The good point that Tony made was that ATC has the latest operational information on Hot or Cold for these restricted areas. Each Restricted area has an ATC zone that is responsible for that information, in our case it is Miami Center. That Center has a mission desk that receives operational status the day or afternoon prior as to the operational times for that specific RA.
For our area that information comes from MacDill AFB usually around 4pm, As Tony stated do not plan on using the NOTAM as the true determination as to whether the zone is HOT or Cold. These zones can change within a few hours notice. You can call the mission desk for that center and as in our case they are always very informative as to the operational hours. I my case I will call the Mission desk, get the current status of each area within that RA, there is usually a 4 hour window for a zone to become operational. I always check with the ATC to confirm the current status to double check the status, I do this by calling Miami ATC on the radio as I am approaching the RA. Keep in mind that these areas are multi purpose military training areas, aircraft, helicopter, artillery, and special warfare training takes place in some of these RA areas. I have has a F-18 circle me outside of the RA while in the MOA, we gave each other the thumbs up, it was great. Old Bob
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Old May 17th 21, 01:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Guy Byars[_5_]
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Default FAA Permanently Revokes Pilot's License over ADS-B


This was not a license suspension, it was a life-time revocation by the FAA


1 year revocation, neither life-time nor permanent.
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Old May 17th 21, 09:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Semantics Michael
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Default FAA Permanently Revokes Pilot's License over ADS-B

On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 7:00:06 AM UTC-5, wrote:
This was not a license suspension, it was a life-time revocation by the FAA

1 year revocation, neither life-time nor permanent.


If this is accurate, I'll be happy to remove the post, but can you cite your source please? According to the references provided in the OP and below, while FAA suspensions are time-limited, revocations (as in this case) not only are permanent, but all certificates are revoked (not just the one flown (SEL) in force during this infraction, but her ATP and others. Ms. Lunken's published info indicates she is now not certified to fly anything.). As is quoted, she is allowed to start her training all over again after a period of time (which she negotiated 3-months earlier). All Respect to Ms. Lunken for the mea culpa and the incentive for her to start anew. The original thought to posting the event was simply a reminder to us not to be tempted to turn off ADS-B (or other archivable logs) as we're climbing through 18k" w/o a wave window. See below:

"...under 49 U.S.C. § 44709(b), the certificate is no longer valid and the holder may not exercise any of its privileges. Unlike a
suspension, a certificate that has been revoked cannot be reinstated. ....To be issued an airman certificate following
revocation, an individual must retake all tests, whether written, oral, or practical."

https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org...Board%20(NTSB).
https://blog.globalair.com/post/2017...-Or-Revokes-It
 




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