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Obsolete weapons
"u don't have to know" wrote in message ... What happen to obsolete weapons as AIM-7 Sparrow which have been replaced by AIM-120 ? Destroyed or stored ? Generally they're used up if still useable, scrapped if past their useable life. tim gueguen 101867 |
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"tgueguen" wrote in message
news:E6CVc.160454$M95.150375@pd7tw1no... | | "u don't have to know" wrote in message | ... | What happen to obsolete weapons as AIM-7 Sparrow which have been replaced | by | AIM-120 ? | Destroyed or stored ? | | Generally they're used up if still useable, scrapped if past their useable | life. | | tim gueguen 101867 A few years ago, I did some work at a military proof range in my state. The 76mm Saladin turret had just been declared obsolete and the ammo was to be destroyed. The option of making piles of the stuff and blowing them up, was too risky. So for the next 3 days, every 12 seconds, they'd fire off a round. As much fun as that sounds, it's gotta get old after 3 days ..... Boom Boom Boom -- Cheers Dave Kearton |
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| Generally they're used up if still useable, scrapped if past their useable | life. "Expended" during mid-cruise 'festivities' on USN carriers. On Ike, we had a couple OUTSTANDING airshows, with Intruders dumping expired bombs and A-7s & Turkeys shooting off their gatling guns as they passed the ship. Great show! v/r Gordon ====(A+C==== USN SAR Its always better to lose -an- engine, not -the- engine. |
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"u don't have to know" wrote in message ... What happen to obsolete weapons as AIM-7 Sparrow which have been replaced by AIM-120 ? Destroyed or stored ? What makes you think they're obselete? |
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"u don't have to know" wrote in message ... What happen to obsolete weapons as AIM-7 Sparrow which have been replaced by AIM-120 ? Destroyed or stored ? Thierry I think that the AIM-7 is still being used, and is being slowly phased out in favor of the AIM-120. They built so many of them, I doubt that they're going to scrap the whole lot until AIM-120 production numbers reach the AIM-7, or until they become completely useless, whichever comes first. |
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"Thomas J. Paladino Jr." wrote:
"u don't have to know" wrote in message ... What happen to obsolete weapons as AIM-7 Sparrow which have been replaced by AIM-120 ? Destroyed or stored ? Thierry I think that the AIM-7 is still being used, and is being slowly phased out in favor of the AIM-120. They built so many of them, I doubt that they're going to scrap the whole lot until AIM-120 production numbers reach the AIM-7, or until they become completely useless, whichever comes first. It's more a question of their use-by dates. Rocket motors, warheads, batteries etc. all have guaranteed shelf lifes. Once those are exceeded the rounds are considered unsafe and either need to have the relevant components replaced (often tedious and expensive) or they need to be destroyed. If we can sell excess older missiles with useful remaining life left to an (approved) air force, we probably would; otherwise there's typically a Shootex to get rid of them before they become time-expired. The Brits did this on a large scale with their F-4s, when the F-4 units were given all the AIM-7Es that were in the UK inventory (Tornados could only use Skyflash, while the F-4 could use either). Many of the missiles were approaching their expiration dates, so every day was Guy Fawkes day for a while, to use up as many as they could. It would certainly be possible to store the GCUs, but probably not worthwhile unless we were also willing to put the airframes/motors/warheads back into production. We may keep some around for war reserves if they've got useful life remaining, but otherwise probably not. Depends when the last AIM-7 was produced for US stocks. Guy |
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know writes What happen to obsolete weapons as AIM-7 Sparrow which have been replaced by AIM-120 ? Destroyed or stored ? Expended downrange, in a lot of cases. "Okay, it's going to cost X money to have these 84mm HEAT rounds scrapped, they're at the end of their working life and only a few backwater Territorial Army units still use them. What do we do with them? Okay, I guess some TA units get to live-fire their 84mm Carl Gustavs then..." Personal beneificiary of this, since we got a truckload of 84mm rounds and sort-of-orders not to return any... It's generally cheaper to fire off LIFEX ammo than to safely scrap it. -- He thinks too much: such men are dangerous. Julius Caesar I:2 Paul J. Adam MainBoxatjrwlynch[dot]demon{dot}co(.)uk |
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"Paul J. Adam" wrote in message ...
Personal beneificiary of this, since we got a truckload of 84mm rounds and sort-of-orders not to return any... How's your hearing now, anyway? Scott |
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In message , Scott
MacEachern writes "Paul J. Adam" wrote in message ... Personal beneificiary of this, since we got a truckload of 84mm rounds and sort-of-orders not to return any... How's your hearing now, anyway? Poor. Probably more to do with too many 7.62mm blank and occasional thunderflashes indoors with no hearing protection, than with a few 84mm rounds fired while wearing ear defenders over ear plugs. (Not sure if hearing protection is now mandated for FIBUA/MOUT, but that could get _loud_ in a hurry) -- He thinks too much: such men are dangerous. Julius Caesar I:2 Paul J. Adam MainBoxatjrwlynch[dot]demon{dot}co(.)uk |
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"Paul J. Adam" wrote in message ... In message , Scott MacEachern writes "Paul J. Adam" wrote in message ... Personal beneificiary of this, since we got a truckload of 84mm rounds and sort-of-orders not to return any... How's your hearing now, anyway? Poor. Probably more to do with too many 7.62mm blank and occasional thunderflashes indoors with no hearing protection, than with a few 84mm rounds fired while wearing ear defenders over ear plugs. (Not sure if hearing protection is now mandated for FIBUA/MOUT, but that could get _loud_ in a hurry) I can attest to how loud 7.62 blank is during MOUT training (think of firing inside of small rooms of multi-story block building with bare walls & floors). I expended the better part of a thousand rounds out of an M-14 last week in just those circumstances. The M-14 doesn't even touch the noise generated by the breaching charges, SAWs and flash-bangs that are common in the MOUT environment. If you did much MOUT stuff with out at least your fingers growing out of your ears I'm surprised your hearing is as good as "poor". All that being said, well, expect a lot of bad hearing in the years to come. |
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