MDW Overrun - SWA

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Sadly there's one fatality, the first in SWA's history. I've driven past
that intersection many times, and it's partly exhilarating and partly
terrifying to have the jets take off so close above you. And it's almost
always a little disconcerting landing there with the usual lake effect
turbulence on final, especially when you seem to float over the runway
forever before actually touching down. I've never piloted anything beyond my
simulator, but isn't it really pushing the envelope to land (on 31C) in
fairly heavy snow with winds from the east at 13 mph?

- Rick

yep

I looked up the MDW airport diagram and the 31C ILS...
The threshold is displaced, so the available landing
distance is only 5800 instead of the 6300 feet of concrete
(numbers rounded). The ILS glide slope will intersect the
runway half way along the touchdown zone which is 1500 past
the beginning of the landing area. That means that if the
airplane landed without any float in the flare it would have
4300 feet of icy and snow packed runway to stop on before
departing the paved surface. If it floated to the end of
the touchdown zone, where a go-around is required by FAR, it
would have only 2800 feet on which to stop.
I would like to know why the PIC did not divert to O'Hare or
some other airport. Seems pretty simple , the plane stopped
right where a calculation indicates it would stop.


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

"Paul kgyy" wrote in message
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| yep
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Jim Macklin wrote:
snip
I would like to know why the PIC did not divert to O'Hare or
some other airport.

Well, my personal theory on not diverting is that no Southwest captain
would be caught dead landing at ORD.

Rachel wrote:

Jim Macklin wrote:
snip
I would like to know why the PIC did not divert to O'Hare or
some other airport.

Well, my personal theory on not diverting is that no Southwest captain
would be caught dead landing at ORD.

So he kills someone at Midway instead? Poor judgement.

Ron Lee

Ron Lee wrote:
Rachel wrote:


Jim Macklin wrote:
snip

I would like to know why the PIC did not divert to O'Hare or
some other airport.

Well, my personal theory on not diverting is that no Southwest captain
would be caught dead landing at ORD.


So he kills someone at Midway instead? Poor judgement.

Ron Lee

Wouldn't be the first time a pilot killed someone because of poor judgement.

In article ,
Rachel wrote:

Jim Macklin wrote:
snip
I would like to know why the PIC did not divert to O'Hare or
some other airport.

Well, my personal theory on not diverting is that no Southwest captain
would be caught dead landing at ORD.

Besides, it would spoil Southwest's fine tradition of studly landings on
short runways. http://avstop.com/news/swairlines.html

rg

The fact that this is the airline's first fatal crash in nearly 35
years of operation speaks volumes about its safety culture. I'd put
its record up against any airline's.

Flight plan priorities...
1. Get somewhere safely.
2. Get where you planned on going.
3. Get there when you planned to arrive.

Airline priorities...
1. Get to the next scheduled departure on time.
2. Don't lose any bags.
3. Don't leave the gate late, because THAT is what the feds
report for airline quality ratings.


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

"Ron Garret" wrote in message
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| In article ,
| Rachel wrote:
|
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| snip
| I would like to know why the PIC did not divert to
O'Hare or
| some other airport.
|
| Well, my personal theory on not diverting is that no
Southwest captain
| would be caught dead landing at ORD.
|
| Besides, it would spoil Southwest's fine tradition of
studly landings on
| short runways. http://avstop.com/news/swairlines.html
|
| rg

Rachel wrote:
Jim Macklin wrote:
snip
I would like to know why the PIC did not divert to O'Hare or
some other airport.

Well, my personal theory on not diverting is that no Southwest captain
would be caught dead landing at ORD.

SWA is starting at DIA, been at LAX, SEA, etc. for years. Their last
incident of this
type was at BUR, into the Chevron station. RUNL gas was $1.59, the good
ole days!

JG