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PED My first solo - and the worst flight of my life
Monarch Air has schools at both Addison, from whence they took off,
Whence they took off. "whence" means "from where". Jose -- "There are 3 secrets to the perfect landing. Unfortunately, nobody knows what they are." - (mike). for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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PED My first solo - and the worst flight of my life
"Jose" wrote in message t... Monarch Air has schools at both Addison, from whence they took off, Whence they took off. "whence" means "from where". Jose Thank you |
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My first solo - and the worst flight of my life
Monarch Student wrote:
So should I get a new instructor? Don't take this wrong...but...do you really need to ask? No question in my mind, I'd drop this guy and go instructor and/or flight school shopping. The guy is working for you. If you don't like the attitude/service/whatever, move on. There are plenty of good CFIs and flight schools out there. Congrats on the solo. Hope you find a better instructor. Any advice would be appreciated. I'm beginning to hate flying, which is sad because I began learning thinking it would be fun. It is fun. It can be an absolute blast with the right instructor as well. -- Jack Allison PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane "To become a Jedi knight, you must master a single force. To become a private pilot you must strive to master four of them" - Rod Machado (Remove the obvious from address to reply via e-mail) |
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My first solo - and the worst flight of my life
Student Pilot:
If your flight instructor did as you stated, he badly needs a Flight Instructor -- to teach him how to instruct. He may be a pilot, but he's not an instructor! I suggest that you get a different instructor, and tell your "former" instructor frankly why you changed, and don't hold back! This should have no effect on your treatment by all the others at the school, because they are undoubtedly well aware of the personality defects of that particular individual. Someone will probably come to you and thank you for "teaching" him a human relations lesson. Hugh Waterman SMEL,commercial, instructor, instrument On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 19:34:35 -0600, Monarch Student wrote: I left this morning for my first supervised solo. My flight instructor is a new guy, about 25 who's never taught students before a month ago. But he seems to know his stuff, so I've put up with him for this long. Until today. We take off from Addison to McKinney TX airport, arrive at McKinney and begin pattern work. Apparently my pattern wasn't tight enough so my instructor who I guess is having a bad morning starts yelling at the top of his lungs, "90 KEEP IT AT ****ING 90 ON DOWNWIND!!". I look down at the airspeed, which is at 87. He slaps my hand away from the throttle, and mashes it in. The nose comes up and he hammers the yoke with his hands so the plane pitches down suddenly. "Watch your altitude", he says. We come in for a landing, on a regular runway with no displaced threshold. He's yelling to keep it at 70 and pitches the yoke down. We're headed directly for the grass in front of the runway. I ask if we can land about fifty feet farther in because at this angle we'll be right on the grass/lights. McKinney is over 6k long, so we have room. And it's 2 days before Thanksgiving so hardly any traffic is present. He says no (seemed like a reasonable request), yells, yells more and my landing which is now low because of our airspeed and him not allowing me to slightly power it to make it farther in, sucks. We stop on the runway, and next pattern he simulates an engine failure. I pitch for about 70, and get, "SIXTY-EIGHT. WHAT'S YOUR ****ING BEST GLIDE? SIXTY-EIGHT!!". There's no way to make it to the runway, at all even with 68. I get yelled at for being too far away, but the tower asked us to be because of incoming traffic. Jake smashes in the throttle and yells "GO AROUND!", forcing the yoke forward because the nose pitched up (thanks to him hammering the throttle in) then yelling at me for that. At this point, I'm ready just to go home. But I consider it wasted money, and probably better to let him scream for 10 more minutes and I'll probably get to solo. Sure enough, after two more landings I solo. "DON'T RUN ME OVER WHEN YOU ****ING COME BACK", he says. 90 downwind, tight pattern, smooth landings. The McKinney tower guy even told my instructor after he got back in that my pattern and landings looked great, but I forgot to announce my callsign once, I didn't center line all the landings, etc etc all announced on the tower frequency. Thanks McKinney ATC guy! *sigh* We return to Monarch Air, he says tie up the plane and hurry up. Coming into the "office", there's 4 instructors standing there, all not talking, avoiding eye contact and Jake in a chair looking down with his hand outstretched for the key. No good solo (which is was), congrats, nadda from anyone. And thus I left, no happy Thanksgiving, see ya when I get back, almost like Jake just wanted me to get the hell out of his face. So should I get a new instructor? Mine seems like a miserable human being. If I was a bad student, maybe I could understand. But the senior instructor that's flown with me on progress flights called me "significantly better than average". How much of a hit would I take changing instructors this far in? Does asking for a new one (preferrably with some experience) label me as a problem student with the school? Is it too much to ask, to be allowed a few feet into the runway if I'm more comfortable with it? Any advice would be appreciated. I'm beginning to hate flying, which is sad because I began learning thinking it would be fun. |
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At first I agreed on all of the above opinions, namely to get rid of that A$$H*LE and find a new flight school. However, the more I read on, the more fishy this whole little story seems. As one person inferred, why did he say he made up the name of the flight school and location when they turn out to be real. I fly out of Addison and am familiar with Monarch and also know that McKinney is the standard training flight from Addison. Why on earth would he say that he made this up???
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My first solo - and the worst flight of my life
Get a new instructor. Three of us shared the same instructor until we each were private pilots but there were sessions when each of us was not comfortable with him. Later, we learned that he hated our profession...engineering and therefore was not pleased to fly with us. After getting the private, I had to do transition training in tailwheel planes and so a new to me instructor was assigned. Like night and day!! Incredible how quickly he picked up on things and how readily they were corrected. Flying with and being instructed by him was a real pleasure so the benefit to all of us was that I went on with him through a Commercial license. The only regret was that I or we three had not changed instructors after the first "realization" hours with the first one. Best of luck and you will!! enjoy the ride with other instructors. Neal |
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My first solo - and the worst flight of my life
"Monarch Student" wrote in message ... the top of his lungs, "90 KEEP IT AT ****ING 90 ON DOWNWIND!!". I look down at the airspeed, which is at 87. He slaps my hand away from the throttle, and mashes it in. Time for a new instructor. Somebody who conducts himself like that with a student is likely missing other critical instructional skills that a more level-headed and positive instructor is more likely to possess. How much of a hit would I take changing instructors this far in? Not much given you've just soloed. Consider that what you're learning concerns matters of life and death for you and your future passengers, and if an instructor has to swear at you on the day you solo, he's irrational. That might make you question his decision to sign you off to solo in the first place. In terms of the money you might lose, I think it's better to reward a good instructor than enable the behavior of a poor one and if you don't, in the long run you'll be spending a lot of money trying to enjoy something being taught to you by somebody you don't trust. I dated a girl who had an instructor like that in Baton Rouge. He made her so uncomfortable in the cockpit she "quit flying for awhile" and never picked it up again. Any advice would be appreciated. I'm beginning to hate flying, which is sad because I began learning thinking it would be fun. It is and for the money you have to pay to do it, it should be. By the way, CONGRATULATIONS. -c |
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My first solo - and the worst flight of my life
If this is typical practice, then without a doubt your flight
instructor is unprofessional and violating the FAA's guidelines on the fundamentals of instruction (FOI) Never, ever, ever pay $50/hour for someone to treat you like crap. Find a new instructor, preferably one who enjoys instructing. You are a client, he is providing a service and under no circumstances should you be reduced to anything less. Incidentally, "slamming" the throttle, or any other aircraft control is a bad idea, and on more than one occasion results in broken cables, linkages, and can even be the straw that breaks an engine, not something you want to have happen with 20 hours in your book. Check our website, there is plenty of information on CFI's, jobs, and the basics of VFR instruction. www.pilotweb.org |
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