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They really *are* shooting at the helicopters...
This just in from the AP:
********************************************* But across the flooded-out city, the rescuers themselves came under attack from storm victims. "Hospitals are trying to evacuate," said Coast Guard Lt. Cmdr. Cheri Ben-Iesan, spokesman at the city emergency operations center. "At every one of them, there are reports that as the helicopters come in people are shooting at them. There are people just taking potshots at police and at helicopters, telling them, `You better come get my family.'" Some Federal Emergency Management rescue operations were suspended in areas where gunfire has broken out, Homeland Security spokesman Russ Knocke said in Washington. "In areas where our employees have been determined to potentially be in danger, we have pulled back," he said. A National Guard military policeman was shot in the leg as the two scuffled for the MP's rifle, police Capt. Ernie Demmo said. The man was arrested. ********************************************* Unbelievable. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:wsKRe.301427$x96.41584@attbi_s72... This just in from the AP: ********************************************* But across the flooded-out city, the rescuers themselves came under attack from storm victims. "Hospitals are trying to evacuate," said Coast Guard Lt. Cmdr. Cheri Ben-Iesan, spokesman at the city emergency operations center. "At every one of them, there are reports that as the helicopters come in people are shooting at them. There are people just taking potshots at police and at helicopters, telling them, `You better come get my family.'" Some Federal Emergency Management rescue operations were suspended in areas where gunfire has broken out, Homeland Security spokesman Russ Knocke said in Washington. "In areas where our employees have been determined to potentially be in danger, we have pulled back," he said. A National Guard military policeman was shot in the leg as the two scuffled for the MP's rifle, police Capt. Ernie Demmo said. The man was arrested. ********************************************* Unbelievable. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" Send in a couple of Cobras or Apaches. They shoot back with a vengance. |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:wsKRe.301427$x96.41584@attbi_s72... This just in from the AP: ********************************************* But across the flooded-out city, the rescuers themselves came under attack from storm victims. "Hospitals are trying to evacuate," said Coast Guard Lt. Cmdr. Cheri Ben-Iesan, spokesman at the city emergency operations center. "At every one of them, there are reports that as the helicopters come in people are shooting at them. There are people just taking potshots at police and at helicopters, telling them, `You better come get my family.'" Some Federal Emergency Management rescue operations were suspended in areas where gunfire has broken out, Homeland Security spokesman Russ Knocke said in Washington. "In areas where our employees have been determined to potentially be in danger, we have pulled back," he said. A National Guard military policeman was shot in the leg as the two scuffled for the MP's rifle, police Capt. Ernie Demmo said. The man was arrested. ********************************************* Unbelievable. What we are witnessing now in the United States is the classic example of good vs evil. In this deplorable situation, we have examples of life cut to the raw bone and sinew of it's basic core engine; ripped wide open for us as we watch it unfold before our eyes. During the last several days I have seen acts of unbelievable daring and courage by tired and over worked helo crews threading their huge machines between power lines and obstacles that could have ended their lives at any instant they made the slightest mistake; to save some nameless and faceless obscure fellow human being in desperate need of assistance. There are as we speak nurses who have gone without sleep for days working by hand respirators attached to patients at hospitals. These nurses don't know the fate of their own families and homes, but are caring for the people being brought in. I've also seen a segment of ignorance and stupidity that is almost beyond belief, as some of my fellow human beings attempt to take advantage of the situation by stealing electrical appliances and other items that not only won't work under the conditions, but serve no useful survival purpose whatsoever. Shooting at the helos is sheer madness. It won't make them come, and could in fact prevent them from coming. This is ignorance at it's highest level if in fact the reports are true. Of all the images; all the desolation; all the horror and despair I have seen these last few days, I think I will carry with me to the day I die the image of that poor, totally broken black man relating to the world, asking nothing for himself but to be heard, the horror of his choice in the middle of the night at the height of the storm as he struggled desperately to hold on to his wife with one hand and his children with the other. The look of sheer agony on his face as he told the reporter about the instant he had to let her go to save his children was heart wrenching and shattering and I for one will never forget it. You may rest assured that when this thing has run it's course and everything that has made up this horrible experience has been tallied up and the country moves on, life in the United States will have experienced a paradigm shift, and life as we have known it in our country will never be quite the same again. I sincerely hope that when these tallies are finalized, the better stuff of our people will have triumphed over the criminal and ignorant side of this deeply human experience. Dudley Henriques |
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In article . net,
"Dudley Henriques" dhenriques@noware .net wrote: You may rest assured that when this thing has run it's course and everything that has made up this horrible experience has been tallied up and the country moves on, life in the United States will have experienced a paradigm shift, and life as we have known it in our country will never be quite the same again. I'd hope that part of this paradigm shift would be a real, genuine recognition that we've got to continuously maintain, repair, upgrade, keep in solid working condition our civic and civil infrastructure, both our physical infrastructure (roads, bridges, dams, levees, pumps, power and communications systems, whatever) *and* our human and governmental infrastructures (people, skills, tools, training, supplies, backups). We need to maintain these civil infrastructures over the long term just as well as the vast majority of the people on this group, for example, will maintain their own airplanes and their personal flying skills, and just as well as many other people -- but unfortunately not all -- try to maintain their houses and cars and neighborhoods and schools. But I don't think it will happen. To be political, here -- since maintenance of civil infrastructure is at base always a political decision -- the loonies of the Left won't do it because they're too diverted by varying combinations of political correctness, inability to really face hard problems and hard decisions, and New Age nuttiness; and the nutcases on the Right won't do it because they're too caught up in their irrational anti-tax and "market forces" ideologies (and as a side issue, too many of them are able to buffer themselves from disasters or just from the deterioration of the society around them, and so have little need or motivation to support its maintenance). |
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"AES" wrote: You may rest assured that when this thing has run it's course and everything that has made up this horrible experience has been tallied up and the country moves on, life in the United States will have experienced a paradigm shift, and life as we have known it in our country will never be quite the same again. I'd hope that part of this paradigm shift would be a real, genuine recognition that we've got to continuously maintain, repair, upgrade, keep in solid working condition our civic and civil infrastructure, No way. We need the money for Iraq...oh, yeah, and for a manned mission to Mars. |
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Hey, don't criticize the war in Iraq. After all, THEY were the ones who
knocked down the World Trade Center (the Alquida Iraq connection remember?). Not only THAT but they have Weapons of Mass Distruction. But even if those aren't true, the war is all about the efficient and inexpensive flow of oil, right? |
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Dudley Henriques wrote:
What we are witnessing now in the United States is the classic example of good vs evil. What we are witnessing is a result of several generations of breeding a type of individual that expects government to take care of their every need from cradle to grave, with no requirement of any level of responsibility on their part... then when there is an interruption of flow from the nipple they get angry. |
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"kontiki" wrote in message ... Dudley Henriques wrote: What we are witnessing now in the United States is the classic example of good vs evil. What we are witnessing is a result of several generations of breeding a type of individual that expects government to take care of their every need from cradle to grave, with no requirement of any level of responsibility on their part... then when there is an interruption of flow from the nipple they get angry. Agreed, my wife and I couldn't believe as we watched the news on the day they were lined up to get into the Superdome one woman, who was being interviewed had nothing but her purse with her. She was asked where her belongings were, she said she didn't need any, the Red Cross would take care of her. |
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On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 15:49:26 GMT, "Allen"
wrote: had nothing but her purse with her. She was asked where her belongings were, she said she didn't need any, the Red Cross would take care of her. I suppose she needed the purse because of the photo ID? Or Medicaid card. I suppose what we're doing here is a classic example of blaming the victim. I do not ordinarily watch TV except during invasions and natural calamities, but I have to say that when my wife asks if this is to be dinner with Smiling Charlie Gibson or out on the porch, I now opt for the porch. I can't bear to watch the New Orleans coverage, and not because of the damage. It's the people! Reminds me of an Englishman I knew in Frankfurt years ago. A friend of his had been at Dunkirk during the great evacuation in May 1940. What was it like? "My dear chap," answered the friend. "The noise. The smell. The PEOPLE." -- all the best, Dan Ford email (put Cubdriver in subject line) Warbird's Forum: www.warbirdforum.com Piper Cub Forum: www.pipercubforum.com the blog: www.danford.net In Search of Lost Time: www.readingproust.com |
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kontiki wrote:
What we are witnessing is a result of several generations of breeding a type of individual that expects government to take care of their every need from cradle to grave, with no requirement of any level of responsibility on their part... then when there is an interruption of flow from the nipple they get angry. Yes indeed. Generation of breeding... starting in shackles and chains on stinking slave ships where food was shoveled and water splashed. Once broken under the whip and rod, docility was bred. Those that escaped or resisted were killed or deliberately maimed ensuring only the proper behaviour was passed on. When the horror became too much for this dear country, the government passed laws to free and yet clearly keep certain people limited in the roles in society. Customs and common sense were also expected. Lynching was used for those that didn't follow customs or exhibit the proper common sense. When the unfairness of that situation became too much for this dear country, we changed the laws and offered equality and tried to remedy generations of 'breeding' with an extensive welfare system, and other government programs. When the unfairness of that situation became too much for this dear country, we changed the laws and dismantled those programs. Unfortunately, some of those *******s are still somehow effected by all that breeding and history. If they'd just grab their own bootstraps and get on with it. What's the hell is the problem? |
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