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  #11  
Old April 26th 07, 12:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Thomas Borchert
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Default Operations over water

Erik,

That would give me some concern if my pilot handed me a lifejacket
and asked me to put it on.


Come again? Aren't you a GA pilot? In a small 4-seat GS aircraft,
suppose you are flying at 3000 feet across water. You will have about 5
minutes to be ready for landing on the water. It might indeed be wise
for everyone to have the jackets on rather than trying to put them on
under duress in the confines of a small cockpit.

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Old April 26th 07, 12:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Apr 25, 11:45 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Where in the regulations can I find the requirements for operations over water
in light GA aircraft? I seem to recall there are restrictions and equipment
requirements, but I can't find them.

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You need to switch off the RunRoughOMatic for flights over water.
That makes you feel save.

-Kees

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Old April 26th 07, 02:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gary[_2_]
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On Apr 25, 5:45 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Where in the regulations can I find the requirements for operations over water
in light GA aircraft? I seem to recall there are restrictions and equipment
requirements, but I can't find them.


Be sure your PC is plugged into a ground-fault circuit interrupter.
For an added margin of safety, don't use the keyboard with wet hands.

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Old April 26th 07, 04:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Apr 25, 3:04 pm, "Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net
wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote:
Where in the regulations can I find the requirements for operations
over water in light GA aircraft? I seem to recall there are
restrictions and equipment requirements, but I can't find them.


FAR Part 91 Sec. 91.509


91.509 applies only to large aircraft.

For small aircraft, only 91.205(b)(12) applies.

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Old April 26th 07, 05:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gary[_2_]
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On Apr 25, 6:28 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
I read a story about a French pilot who flew across the Channel with he and
his passengers actually wearing their lifejackets, but I don't know if this
was a specific requirement for France, or just an extra precaution that he
preferred, or what. It's only 20 miles across the channel so apparently it
wouldn't even be covered by 91.509.


I can think of other reasons why a flight by a French pilot across the
English channel wouldn't be covered by FAR 91.509.

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Old April 26th 07, 05:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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On Apr 25, 3:06 pm, "Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net
wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote:
Where in the regulations can I find the requirements for operations
over water in light GA aircraft? I seem to recall there are
restrictions and equipment requirements, but I can't find them.


FAR Part 91 Sec. 91.509


opps I forgot Sec. 91.511


Both of which do not apply to Spamcans. However, if you are flying
Citations, you may need to be concerned with these FARs.

-robert

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Old April 26th 07, 05:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ross
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Erik wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote:

Gig 601XL Builder writes:


Mxsmanic wrote:

Where in the regulations can I find the requirements for operations
over water in light GA aircraft? I seem to recall there are
restrictions and equipment requirements, but I can't find them.


FAR Part 91 Sec. 91.509




Thanks. The liferaft must add a lot of weight.

I read a story about a French pilot who flew across the Channel with
he and
his passengers actually wearing their lifejackets, but I don't know if
this
was a specific requirement for France, or just an extra precaution
that he
preferred, or what. It's only 20 miles across the channel so
apparently it
wouldn't even be covered by 91.509.


That would give me some concern if my pilot handed me a lifejacket
and asked me to put it on.


Do it in floatplanes....

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Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI
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Old April 26th 07, 06:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Erik
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Gary wrote:
On Apr 25, 6:28 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

I read a story about a French pilot who flew across the Channel with he and
his passengers actually wearing their lifejackets, but I don't know if this
was a specific requirement for France, or just an extra precaution that he
preferred, or what. It's only 20 miles across the channel so apparently it
wouldn't even be covered by 91.509.



I can think of other reasons why a flight by a French pilot across the
English channel wouldn't be covered by FAR 91.509.


I hope that you're not suggesting that the FAA does not have
jurisdiction over French pilots! I thought we had all-
encompassing police power in every country.

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Old April 26th 07, 07:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Apr 26, 4:00 am, Thomas Borchert
wrote:
Erik,

That would give me some concern if my pilot handed me a lifejacket
and asked me to put it on.


Come again? Aren't you a GA pilot?


Of course he's not! He only "flies" simulators,
and has zero experience as pilot or passenger
in a single engine plane. He demonstrates
this ignorance frequently in this group in
various ways.

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Old April 26th 07, 08:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
John Godwin
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ZikZak wrote in
oups.com:

For small aircraft, only 91.205(b)(12) applies.


.... if being operated for hire.

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