An Unexpected Finding Among Commercial Pilots

Wolfgang Schwanke writes:

I know a couple. They will happily drive their car after having a glass
of beer, but the same people would never think of flying a plane after
the same beer.

Why do they make the distinction? Car accidents are much more common than
airplane accidents, and typically 50% involve alcohol. How do they justify
driving under the influence of the drug? And if they think it's okay, how can
one be sure that they won't make the same mistake when flying?

Apparently many other people think they're different.

Yes. That's why so many people die in vehicular accidents after consuming
alcohol. They always think they are special.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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I know people who spend several hundred dollars a month on cigarettes
and/or
alcohol. Are they addicted?

Which is it, cigarettes or alcohol?

One could easily spend several hundered dollars on one bottle of wine per
month. I don't wouldn't consider that addicted.

A pack-a-day smoker spends more then 'several hunderd dollars' a month on
cigarettes.

I know people who can't go an hour without a cigarette

You should stay far away from these people. They're likely to burn down
their home smoking while they're sleeping

Mxsmanic wrote:
Maxwell writes:

Why do you always sound like you have been drinking and deriving.

Deriving what?

Nothing of value, obviously.

--
Jim Pennino

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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Maxwell writes:

Why do you always sound like you have been drinking and deriving.

Deriving what?

Deriving the wrong conclusions from much of your "research".

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Maxwell writes:

Why do you always sound like you have been drinking and deriving.

Deriving what?

Thanks, that's an excellent example.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Wolfgang Schwanke writes:

I know a couple. They will happily drive their car after having a glass
of beer, but the same people would never think of flying a plane after
the same beer.

Why do they make the distinction?

What a retard. Shut up, your digging a hole Mr. Haveneverflown.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Neil Gould writes:

It's clear that you don't understand addiction at all. There is ample
information available on the web that you should be able to enlighten
yourself about addiction without too much difficulty.

There's also plenty of information on the Web indicating why it's stupid to
take drugs and operate vehicles at the same time.

There are *many* reasons why flying after even a single drink is not
equivalent to driving under the same conditions. I know of no one of the
hundreds of members in our flying club who will fly after a drink.

And they are willing to drive after drinking?

There is also a reason why no DUI laws begin at 0.001%.

Some do. They are called zero-tolerance laws, and are based on the premise
that no impairment is small enough to be acceptable impairment.

Then they must get a lot of cases that go to court because that's bad science. You
can get a non-zero reading without consuming alcohol, even with lab-grade equipment.
That's why the FAA allows up to a .02% BAC reading before flying. (Balloon tests,
often used in driving enforcement, are inherently less accurate than lab
breathalyzers or a blood sample, which is why they aren't used in enforcing the
FARs.)

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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John Mazor writes:

If it is habitual and not a rare event, then yes, but you
didn't specify that.

Is daily consumption of alcohol habitual?

Did you specify "daily" in your sweeping statement?

No... so are we to conclude that you're looking for help in self-diagnosis, or just
jinking to avoid having to admit your error?

Mxsmanic wrote in
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John Mazor writes:

If it is habitual and not a rare event, then yes, but you
didn't specify that.

Is daily consumption of alcohol habitual?



This from someone who lives in France.

In fact, until fairly recently, French pilots were allowed to have a glass
of wine with theiir dinner inflight..



Fjukkwit.


Bertie

"John Mazor" wrote in news:7gB4j.3418$RB.565
@trnddc03:


"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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nobody writes:

None.

Then your pilot friends are not representative of the
pilots under discussion.
The pilots being discussed are those who drink and drive.
Obviously, if
someone is careful not to drink and drive, he'll probably
be at least as
careful not to drink and fly.

I can think of at least ten

How many of them are still alive?

As I said, I mistrust your sample. I socialize with
pilots and non-pilots.
How many pilots do you socialize with?

I don't socialize at all. I rely on studies with sound
methodologies rather
than anecdotal personal experience.

Which would explain your armchair "knowledge" of aviation,
not to mention human behavior and life in general.

It also suggests why you don't socialize - who wants to hang
around a know-it-all who doesn't know it all and doesn't
even know that he doesn't know it all?

Himself and his Josie and the Pussycats action figures?


Bertie