Col. Donn de Grand-Pre, U.S. Army (ret.) Exposes Flight 93 Shoot Down Info ??

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 00:06:56 -0400, Dan wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:53:41 +1300, george152 wrote:

On 13/10/2011 3:23 p.m., Mike wrote:
On 12/10/2011 6:18 PM, Oldmilret wrote:


On alert two bases 6 minutes from scramble order to in the air.
One base not on alert somehow they managed 16 minutes.

Darn. Not you got me wondering.
9:35 to 10:00
OP indicates 250 miles in 25 minutes.
That's only 600 mph. (If the math is correct?)
Why so slow on an intercept?

Now don't go clouding the theory with facts!!!

Mike



"Tom" is an admitted homosexual. Their brains are fried.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

He's a troll who needa attention. I saw that written on Usenet. A
troll needs attention.

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 00:08:15 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 08:12:23 +1300, george152 wrote:

On 13/10/2011 2:56 a.m., Quaalude wrote:
"They were out of Hector Field, Fargo, North Dakota. A bunch, this 119
Fighter Group and they are called the Happy Hooligans. They are probably
the best interceptors that we have in the country. They were moved to
Langley Air Force Base from Hector Field down to Southern Virginia. And
when the klaxon horn went off at 9:35, those two pilots put down their
coffee and shot into their aircraft and took off."

They didn't know where they were going initially but by 10:00 hours,
they had rendezvoused over Southern Pennsylvania. That's about 250
miles in just a matter of minutes and engaged 93 with two side-winder
missiles. And they accomplished their objective. Now Hector Field, I
use to fly out of Hector Field some time ago. I know most of those
pilots. I could name names. I know the National Guard Adj. General. And
they were decorated about a year later and I have the full write up of
that story in my book."

Riiiight!
Do you know just how long it takes to prepare a jet fighter for takeoff?
That will do for a start

Don't respond to troll you idiot.

Good one, James. Trolls need attention! I saw that!

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:37:26 -0400, VOR-DME wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 00:06:56 -0400, Dan wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:53:41 +1300, george152 wrote:

On 13/10/2011 3:23 p.m., Mike wrote:
On 12/10/2011 6:18 PM, Oldmilret wrote:


On alert two bases 6 minutes from scramble order to in the air.
One base not on alert somehow they managed 16 minutes.

Darn. Not you got me wondering.
9:35 to 10:00
OP indicates 250 miles in 25 minutes.
That's only 600 mph. (If the math is correct?)
Why so slow on an intercept?

Now don't go clouding the theory with facts!!!

Mike



"Tom" is an admitted homosexual. Their brains are fried.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

He's a troll who needa attention. I saw that written on Usenet. A
troll needs attention.


What kind of drugs are you on?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:54:01 -0400, Dan wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:37:26 -0400, VOR-DME wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 00:06:56 -0400, Dan wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:53:41 +1300, george152 wrote:

On 13/10/2011 3:23 p.m., Mike wrote:
On 12/10/2011 6:18 PM, Oldmilret wrote:


On alert two bases 6 minutes from scramble order to in the air.
One base not on alert somehow they managed 16 minutes.

Darn. Not you got me wondering.
9:35 to 10:00
OP indicates 250 miles in 25 minutes.
That's only 600 mph. (If the math is correct?)
Why so slow on an intercept?

Now don't go clouding the theory with facts!!!

Mike



"Tom" is an admitted homosexual. Their brains are fried.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

He's a troll who needa attention. I saw that written on Usenet. A
troll needs attention.


What kind of drugs are you on?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Huh? I'm a buzz bee! Bzzzzzzzzzzz Bzzzzzzzzzzt Bzzzzzzzzzz

I get it now - this is a huge Cover-Up, isn’t it. The dumb is
silenced bzzzz bzzz bzzz - with you Tom, bzzz bzzzz bzzz - isn’t this
dumb? Bzzzz bzzz bzzz

Whose dumb dumb dumb now the dumb the DUMB or DUMBER? Who?

Don't feed the TROLL!! I can’t keep from dpoing it myself!!!
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On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:54:01 -0400, Dan wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:37:26 -0400, VOR-DME wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 00:06:56 -0400, Dan wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:53:41 +1300, george152 wrote:

On 13/10/2011 3:23 p.m., Mike wrote:
On 12/10/2011 6:18 PM, Oldmilret wrote:


On alert two bases 6 minutes from scramble order to in the air.
One base not on alert somehow they managed 16 minutes.

Darn. Not you got me wondering.
9:35 to 10:00
OP indicates 250 miles in 25 minutes.
That's only 600 mph. (If the math is correct?)
Why so slow on an intercept?

Now don't go clouding the theory with facts!!!

Mike



"Tom" is an admitted homosexual. Their brains are fried.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

He's a troll who needa attention. I saw that written on Usenet. A
troll needs attention.


What kind of drugs are you on?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Huh? I'm a buzz bee! Bzzzzzzzzzzz Bzzzzzzzzzzt Bzzzzzzzzzz

I get it now - this is a huge Cover-Up, isn’t it. The dumb is
silenced bzzzz bzzz bzzz - with you Tom, bzzz bzzzz bzzz - isn’t this
dumb? Bzzzz bzzz bzzz

Whose dumb dumb dumb now the dumb the DUMB or DUMBER? Who?

Don't feed the TROLL!! I can’t keep from dpoing it myself!!!
BZZZZZZt! BZZZZZZT! BZZZZZZZT!~

Bzzzzzz Bzzzzzzzzzz Tom Bzzzzzzzzzz I'm a bee! Bzzzzzzzzzz

Huge Bee! Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:56:24 -0400, VOR-DME wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:54:01 -0400, Dan wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:37:26 -0400, VOR-DME wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 00:06:56 -0400, Dan wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:53:41 +1300, george152 wrote:

On 13/10/2011 3:23 p.m., Mike wrote:
On 12/10/2011 6:18 PM, Oldmilret wrote:


On alert two bases 6 minutes from scramble order to in the air.
One base not on alert somehow they managed 16 minutes.

Darn. Not you got me wondering.
9:35 to 10:00
OP indicates 250 miles in 25 minutes.
That's only 600 mph. (If the math is correct?)
Why so slow on an intercept?

Now don't go clouding the theory with facts!!!

Mike



"Tom" is an admitted homosexual. Their brains are fried.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

He's a troll who needa attention. I saw that written on Usenet. A
troll needs attention.


What kind of drugs are you on?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Huh? I'm a buzz bee! Bzzzzzzzzzzz Bzzzzzzzzzzt Bzzzzzzzzzz

I get it now - this is a huge Cover-Up, isn’t it. The dumb is
silenced bzzzz bzzz bzzz - with you Tom, bzzz bzzzz bzzz - isn’t this
dumb? Bzzzz bzzz bzzz

Whose dumb dumb dumb now the dumb the DUMB or DUMBER? Who?

Don't feed the TROLL!! I can’t keep from dpoing it myself!!!
BZZZZZZt! BZZZZZZT! BZZZZZZZT!~

Bzzzzzz Bzzzzzzzzzz Tom Bzzzzzzzzzz I'm a bee! Bzzzzzzzzzz

Huge Bee! Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I think when the ufo zealots and conspiracy theorists resort to
spoofing posts, including spelling and grammatical errors that the
"real" identity doen not make, it's pretty much the intellectual
equivalent of Chapter 11.

I get it now - this is a huge Cover-Up, isn’t it. The dumb is
silenced bzzzz bzzz bzzz - with you Tom, bzzz bzzzz bzzz - isn’t this
dumb? Bzzzz bzzz bzzz

("real" VOR-DME)

PS; The cross-posting is also a clue. Real VOR-DME doesn't.
Spoofers can't help themselves...Homosexuals welcomed.

Shall we please move quickly from Chapter 11, "Intellectual
Bankruptcy" on to Chapter 9, "Liquidation"...

I'm your bee!

Whose dumb dumb dumb now the dumb the DUMB or DUMBER? Who?

Don't feed the TROLL!! I can’t keep from dpoing it myself!!!
BZZZZZZt! BZZZZZZT! BZZZZZZZT!~

Bzzzzzz Bzzzzzzzzzz Tom Bzzzzzzzzzz I'm a bee! Bzzzzzzzzzz

Huge Bee! Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:56:24 -0400, VOR-DME wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:54:01 -0400, Dan wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:37:26 -0400, VOR-DME wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 00:06:56 -0400, Dan wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:53:41 +1300, george152 wrote:

On 13/10/2011 3:23 p.m., Mike wrote:
On 12/10/2011 6:18 PM, Oldmilret wrote:


On alert two bases 6 minutes from scramble order to in the air.
One base not on alert somehow they managed 16 minutes.

Darn. Not you got me wondering.
9:35 to 10:00
OP indicates 250 miles in 25 minutes.
That's only 600 mph. (If the math is correct?)
Why so slow on an intercept?

Now don't go clouding the theory with facts!!!

Mike



"Tom" is an admitted homosexual. Their brains are fried.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

He's a troll who needa attention. I saw that written on Usenet. A
troll needs attention.


What kind of drugs are you on?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Huh? I'm a buzz bee! Bzzzzzzzzzzz Bzzzzzzzzzzt Bzzzzzzzzzz

I get it now - this is a huge Cover-Up, isn’t it. The dumb is
silenced bzzzz bzzz bzzz - with you Tom, bzzz bzzzz bzzz - isn’t this
dumb? Bzzzz bzzz bzzz

Whose dumb dumb dumb now the dumb the DUMB or DUMBER? Who?

Don't feed the TROLL!! I can’t keep from dpoing it myself!!!
BZZZZZZt! BZZZZZZT! BZZZZZZZT!~

Bzzzzzz Bzzzzzzzzzz Tom Bzzzzzzzzzz I'm a bee! Bzzzzzzzzzz

Huge Bee! Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I think when the ufo zealots and conspiracy theorists resort to
spoofing posts, including spelling and grammatical errors that the
"real" identity doen not make, it's pretty much the intellectual
equivalent of Chapter 11.

I get it now - this is a huge Cover-Up, isn’t it. The dumb is
silenced bzzzz bzzz bzzz - with you Tom, bzzz bzzzz bzzz - isn’t this
dumb? Bzzzz bzzz bzzz

("real" VOR-DME)

PS; The cross-posting is also a clue. Real VOR-DME doesn't.
Spoofers can't help themselves...Homosexuals welcomed.

Shall we please move quickly from Chapter 11, "Intellectual
Bankruptcy" on to Chapter 9, "Liquidation"...

I'm your bee!

Whose dumb dumb dumb now the dumb the DUMB or DUMBER? Who?

Don't feed the TROLL!! I can’t keep from dpoing it myself!!!
BZZZZZZt! BZZZZZZT! BZZZZZZZT!~

Bzzzzzz Bzzzzzzzzzz Tom Bzzzzzzzzzz I'm a bee! Bzzzzzzzzzz

Huge Bee! Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 15:01:08 -0400, VOR-DME wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:56:24 -0400, VOR-DME wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:54:01 -0400, Dan wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:37:26 -0400, VOR-DME wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 00:06:56 -0400, Dan wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:53:41 +1300, george152 wrote:

On 13/10/2011 3:23 p.m., Mike wrote:
On 12/10/2011 6:18 PM, Oldmilret wrote:


On alert two bases 6 minutes from scramble order to in the air.
One base not on alert somehow they managed 16 minutes.

Darn. Not you got me wondering.
9:35 to 10:00
OP indicates 250 miles in 25 minutes.
That's only 600 mph. (If the math is correct?)
Why so slow on an intercept?

Now don't go clouding the theory with facts!!!

Mike



"Tom" is an admitted homosexual. Their brains are fried.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

He's a troll who needa attention. I saw that written on Usenet. A
troll needs attention.


What kind of drugs are you on?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Huh? I'm a buzz bee! Bzzzzzzzzzzz Bzzzzzzzzzzt Bzzzzzzzzzz

I get it now - this is a huge Cover-Up, isn’t it. The dumb is
silenced bzzzz bzzz bzzz - with you Tom, bzzz bzzzz bzzz - isn’t this
dumb? Bzzzz bzzz bzzz

Whose dumb dumb dumb now the dumb the DUMB or DUMBER? Who?

Don't feed the TROLL!! I can’t keep from dpoing it myself!!!
BZZZZZZt! BZZZZZZT! BZZZZZZZT!~

Bzzzzzz Bzzzzzzzzzz Tom Bzzzzzzzzzz I'm a bee! Bzzzzzzzzzz

Huge Bee! Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I think when the ufo zealots and conspiracy theorists resort to
spoofing posts, including spelling and grammatical errors that the
"real" identity doen not make, it's pretty much the intellectual
equivalent of Chapter 11.

I get it now - this is a huge Cover-Up, isn’t it. The dumb is
silenced bzzzz bzzz bzzz - with you Tom, bzzz bzzzz bzzz - isn’t this
dumb? Bzzzz bzzz bzzz

("real" VOR-DME)

PS; The cross-posting is also a clue. Real VOR-DME doesn't.

Uh, "real VOR, you just did.

Spoofers can't help themselves...Homosexuals welcomed.

???

Shall we please move quickly from Chapter 11, "Intellectual
Bankruptcy" on to Chapter 9, "Liquidation"...

I'm your bee!

Whose dumb dumb dumb now the dumb the DUMB or DUMBER? Who?

Don't feed the TROLL!! I can’t keep from dpoing it myself!!!
BZZZZZZt! BZZZZZZT! BZZZZZZZT!~

Bzzzzzz Bzzzzzzzzzz Tom Bzzzzzzzzzz I'm a bee! Bzzzzzzzzzz

Huge Bee! Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Scary, so proud for you.

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 15:01:08 -0400, VOR-DME wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:56:24 -0400, VOR-DME wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:54:01 -0400, Dan wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:37:26 -0400, VOR-DME wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 00:06:56 -0400, Dan wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:53:41 +1300, george152 wrote:

On 13/10/2011 3:23 p.m., Mike wrote:
On 12/10/2011 6:18 PM, Oldmilret wrote:


On alert two bases 6 minutes from scramble order to in the air.
One base not on alert somehow they managed 16 minutes.

Darn. Not you got me wondering.
9:35 to 10:00
OP indicates 250 miles in 25 minutes.
That's only 600 mph. (If the math is correct?)
Why so slow on an intercept?

Now don't go clouding the theory with facts!!!

Mike



"Tom" is an admitted homosexual. Their brains are fried.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

He's a troll who needa attention. I saw that written on Usenet. A
troll needs attention.


What kind of drugs are you on?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Huh? I'm a buzz bee! Bzzzzzzzzzzz Bzzzzzzzzzzt Bzzzzzzzzzz

I get it now - this is a huge Cover-Up, isn’t it. The dumb is
silenced bzzzz bzzz bzzz - with you Tom, bzzz bzzzz bzzz - isn’t this
dumb? Bzzzz bzzz bzzz

Whose dumb dumb dumb now the dumb the DUMB or DUMBER? Who?

Don't feed the TROLL!! I can’t keep from dpoing it myself!!!
BZZZZZZt! BZZZZZZT! BZZZZZZZT!~

Bzzzzzz Bzzzzzzzzzz Tom Bzzzzzzzzzz I'm a bee! Bzzzzzzzzzz

Huge Bee! Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I think when the ufo zealots and conspiracy theorists resort to
spoofing posts, including spelling and grammatical errors that the
"real" identity doen not make, it's pretty much the intellectual
equivalent of Chapter 11.

I get it now - this is a huge Cover-Up, isn’t it. The dumb is
silenced bzzzz bzzz bzzz - with you Tom, bzzz bzzzz bzzz - isn’t this
dumb? Bzzzz bzzz bzzz

("real" VOR-DME)

PS; The cross-posting is also a clue. Real VOR-DME doesn't.
Spoofers can't help themselves...Homosexuals welcomed.

Shall we please move quickly from Chapter 11, "Intellectual
Bankruptcy" on to Chapter 9, "Liquidation"...

I'm your bee!

Whose dumb dumb dumb now the dumb the DUMB or DUMBER? Who?

Don't feed the TROLL!! I can’t keep from dpoing it myself!!!
BZZZZZZt! BZZZZZZT! BZZZZZZZT!~

Bzzzzzz Bzzzzzzzzzz Tom Bzzzzzzzzzz I'm a bee! Bzzzzzzzzzz

Huge Bee! Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

What kind of drugs are you on? Share.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 15:01:08 -0400, VOR-DME wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:56:24 -0400, VOR-DME wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:54:01 -0400, Dan wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:37:26 -0400, VOR-DME wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 00:06:56 -0400, Dan wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:53:41 +1300, george152 wrote:

On 13/10/2011 3:23 p.m., Mike wrote:
On 12/10/2011 6:18 PM, Oldmilret wrote:


On alert two bases 6 minutes from scramble order to in the air.
One base not on alert somehow they managed 16 minutes.

Darn. Not you got me wondering.
9:35 to 10:00
OP indicates 250 miles in 25 minutes.
That's only 600 mph. (If the math is correct?)
Why so slow on an intercept?

Now don't go clouding the theory with facts!!!

Mike



"Tom" is an admitted homosexual. Their brains are fried.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

He's a troll who needa attention. I saw that written on Usenet. A
troll needs attention.


What kind of drugs are you on?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Huh? I'm a buzz bee! Bzzzzzzzzzzz Bzzzzzzzzzzt Bzzzzzzzzzz

I get it now - this is a huge Cover-Up, isn’t it. The dumb is
silenced bzzzz bzzz bzzz - with you Tom, bzzz bzzzz bzzz - isn’t this
dumb? Bzzzz bzzz bzzz

Whose dumb dumb dumb now the dumb the DUMB or DUMBER? Who?

Don't feed the TROLL!! I can’t keep from dpoing it myself!!!
BZZZZZZt! BZZZZZZT! BZZZZZZZT!~

Bzzzzzz Bzzzzzzzzzz Tom Bzzzzzzzzzz I'm a bee! Bzzzzzzzzzz

Huge Bee! Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I think when the ufo zealots and conspiracy theorists resort to
spoofing posts, including spelling and grammatical errors that the
"real" identity doen not make, it's pretty much the intellectual
equivalent of Chapter 11.

I get it now - this is a huge Cover-Up, isn’t it. The dumb is
silenced bzzzz bzzz bzzz - with you Tom, bzzz bzzzz bzzz - isn’t this
dumb? Bzzzz bzzz bzzz

("real" VOR-DME)

PS; The cross-posting is also a clue. Real VOR-DME doesn't.
Spoofers can't help themselves...Homosexuals welcomed.

Shall we please move quickly from Chapter 11, "Intellectual
Bankruptcy" on to Chapter 9, "Liquidation"...

I'm your bee!

Whose dumb dumb dumb now the dumb the DUMB or DUMBER? Who?

Don't feed the TROLL!! I can’t keep from dpoing it myself!!!
BZZZZZZt! BZZZZZZT! BZZZZZZZT!~

Bzzzzzz Bzzzzzzzzzz Tom Bzzzzzzzzzz I'm a bee! Bzzzzzzzzzz

Huge Bee! Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

What kind of drugs are you on? Share.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired