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Two 14 year old boys steal plane and then crash
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... Oh, don't get me wrong... I am not saying I disagree with your philosophy in the least. However, I have seen the oddest behaviors from "do-gooders" in this useless state. For instance... While in a blockbuster video, a kid (about age 5) was being a major pain and the parent swatted the kid on the rear while in the store. Another person came up and "detained" them until the police showed up. True story which I personally observed. "This is my .45... This is your brain scattered across the videos... Any questions?" If you leave bruises, it could be viewed at abuse... Red marks left on the butt don't count... Slapping the kid in the face is not really acceptable though... Hell, what do you think that butts evolved for? Sitting? Nawh... |
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Two 14 year old boys steal plane and then crash
"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
... My at-home son is 6'3", 215 and I'd need a cinderblock to beat him senseless...if I could catch him. If you start out right, they'll still be intimidated of you even when you're on a walker and they're picking out your retirement home... |
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Two 14 year old boys steal plane and then crash
Matt
Do you have any kids? Are they all you'd like them to be? Can they survive in a society without rules or demands for certain levels of behaviour? I suppose I could talk my kids to death and feel good that I'd counseled them to the point of correct behaviour only to have to do it again when they decided to argue the point while they misbehaved. I can see this is a pointless argument with liberal attitudes. You can raise your kids the way you see fit, and I'll raise mine the way I see fit. When my kids go to war to support our way of life,and yours stay at home doing "their thing", I'll maintain my position of arguing the position of might/right In the meantime, I'll demand discipline in the cockpit that many students are not accustomed to yet respond to in a positive manner. It can quickly become a life or death matter and they see it from a new perspective with my instruction. Why? Because in 50 years of aviation I've been subjected to more than most can imagine. I hope I haven' t offended you with my bluntness, but if I have, deal with it? Semper Fi Rocky |
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Two 14 year old boys steal plane and then crash
Matt
Do you have any kids? Are they all you'd like them to be? Can they survive in a society without rules or demands for certain levels of behaviour? I suppose I could talk my kids to death and feel good that I'd counseled them to the point of correct behaviour only to have to do it again when they decided to argue the point while they misbehaved. I can see this is a pointless argument with liberal attitudes. You can raise your kids the way you see fit, and I'll raise mine the way I see fit. When my kids go to war to support our way of life,and yours stay at home doing "their thing", I'll maintain my position of arguing the position of might/right In the meantime, I'll demand discipline in the cockpit that many students are not accustomed to yet respond to in a positive manner. It can quickly become a life or death matter and they see it from a new perspective with my instruction. Why? Because in 50 years of aviation I've been subjected to more than most can imagine. I hope I haven' t offended you with my bluntness, but if I have, deal with it? Semper Fi Rocky |
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Two 14 year old boys steal plane and then crash
Then perhaps you can understand my position? Why are the youth of today
so far out of touch with common decency in society and seem to have lost any sembalance of moral compass? I'm with ya on this one Rocky. I've asked the same thing in one of my earlier posts. IIRC I was commenting on the suspected "reality disconnect" that it seems many kids have today. That, and the seemingly complete disrespect for other people and their posessions. It seems like there's no regard for the potential consequences of one's actions, and that doesn't always just mean juveniles. Consider adults that f-up and refuse to take responsibility for their actions. When I was a kid (I'm 37) just taking Dad's car for a joyride before I had a license was a hoot. I can't imagine having the stones to take his plane (if he'd had one) I guess I never lost sight of the huge potential downside to doing something as stupid as that. Consider again the cases of acft being stolen last year alone (here in CT at my airport - that guy's still in jail) . Juveniles looking for a thrill thinking (maybe?) they can handle anything that happens just because they have MS Flight Sim 5.whatever. Unreal. Whew. Didn't mean to vent and I'm certainly no authority on this, but I get really steamed when something like this happens because it just makes GA look bad no matter what the outcome. |
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Two 14 year old boys steal plane and then crash
Reminds me of a time when I was in intensive care with 7 bullet holes
and kind of hurting... My son came to see me and reminded me of the times when he had challenged me to an arm wrestle and he always lost. And the day when he said, "Dad, someday I'm gonna beat your ass". I laughed and told him, "Son, when you get to that point you're not gonna want to." When he leaned down to give me a soft hug in the hospital,I said, "Son, now is your chance to beat my ass..." he reminded me of that day and said, "Dad, I just figured out I don't want to.." Semper Fi Rocky |
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Two 14 year old boys steal plane and then crash
"Peter R." wrote in message
... The fact that the thief of the aircraft was his son does not negate the fact that the aircraft was stolen and damaged. As an aircraft owner myself, I have confidence that this aircraft will be covered by the owner's insurance policy. So, they'll pay off to the father on the stolen aircraft and then sue the son for the damage that he did to it... Since the son is a minor, the father would have to pay it... Never underestimate the limits the insurance companies will go to to keep from paying out or getting their money back... |
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Two 14 year old boys steal plane and then crash
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Then perhaps you can understand my position? Sure do, although not knowing the details of this stolen aircraft, I am unable to judge whether anyone was actually dodging responsibility. Perhaps the boys will come forward, admit full responsibility, and request the fullest penalty of the law as a response for their very stupid action? Why are the youth of today so far out of touch with common decency in society and seem to have lost any sembalance of moral compass? In cases such as this? Probably poor parenting. I have three young boys ages 8, 6, and 1. Through my (and my wife's) actions and words, the older are consistently taught responsibility, decency, and respect for authority. They are absolutely held to a high standard and are accountable for every one of their actions through swift discipline. My effective tool is more a loud voice and removal of privileges rather than physical threat, although in one memorable case even that was needed early on to stop some harmful behavior, which it immediately did. -- Peter |
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Two 14 year old boys steal plane and then crash
"Grumman-581" wrote in message ... "Matt Barrow" wrote in message ... My at-home son is 6'3", 215 and I'd need a cinderblock to beat him senseless...if I could catch him. If you start out right, they'll still be intimidated of you even when you're on a walker and they're picking out your retirement home... :~) Well, my oldest is 26, USN LT(jg) CE, at-home son is 23 and on his way to Med school, and my youngest is 20; I never hit any of them. Ever. Raised my voice a few times. Okay, a lotta times. -- Matt --------------------- Matthew W. Barrow Site-Fill Homes, LLC. Montrose, CO |
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