Suggested Lunch Stops "Near" Washington, D.C.?

dave wrote:
Jay,
Try Baybridge, W29. It's really not out of the way for you. There's a
nice seafood restaurant within walking distance of the airport. It's
got great views of Chesapeake Bay from the outside dining area. Sorry
I can't remember the name of the restaurant. Maybe someone else from
the group can give Jay a more up to date pirep on the place. I was last
there about 5 years ago.

Have a safe trip.

Dave
68 7ECA


Hmmm, last I checked Iowa was West of Dulles and Bay Bridge was East.
Besides, if I was going out that way I'd stop at Kentmore and go over to
the Marina for crab cakes.

Margy

Jay Honeck wrote:

Well, our upcoming trip to Dulles has been expanded. Weather
permitting, we'll be leaving this coming Wednesday, heading up to Door
County, WI, spending the night there, and proceeding up to Mackinac
Island on Thursday for brunch. From there we ill be heading direct
to the Washington, D.C. area, over the top of the Great Lakes.

It ought to be a beautiful trip!

This routing would mean approaching Washington from the north instead
of the west. I plan to stop short of the ADIZ for lunch, get all of
my ducks in a row with an ADIZ flight plan, and then have a
(relatively) short flight into Dulles from there. (Margy, will
arriving on Thursday work, or do I have to wait till Friday?)

ANYWAY -- it appears that I've got quite a few good choices for
stopping -- but maybe you "local" guys can steer me to the best
food? I've picked a few that are right on my flight plan, but I'm
open to suggestions:

1. Bedford, PA (KMHZ) is just 35 minutes from Dulles.
2. Cumberland, MD (KCBE) is just 30 minutes from Dulles
3. Martinsburg, WV (KMRB) is just 15 minutes from Dulles

Of these three, which would you recommend? Or, alternatively, what's
a better stop?

Also, I have just started researching this ADIZ flight plan stuff.
One fellow who wrote me off-line referred to "VOR gateways" into the
ADIZ, which implies that there are set "routes" via VORs through the
ADIZ into Dulles. Is this correct, or (once I've been assigned a
discrete squawk code and have my ADIZ flight plan activated) can I fly
GPS direct from the point where I enter the ADIZ straight into Dulles?

Thanks for your help!

Margy wrote:

Hmmm, last I checked Iowa was West of Dulles and Bay Bridge was East.
Besides, if I was going out that way I'd stop at Kentmore and go over to
the Marina for crab cakes.

Yes, Kentmorr (3W3). An excellent grass strip with residences. Walk to
the water and left down the street one block to the Marina. Best
seafood stop within 100 miles.

3W# has its own ADIZ procedure.

Would definitely recommend it for a taste of Blue Crabs. The crab cakes
*are* great but remember that's the dish to avoid at most crab places
(advice from a blue crab expert/wholesaler/retailer)

That's where I'd go.

Been lurking and understand you're going to check out the new museum at
Dulles...

I lived within about a 10 minute drive of Dulles up until a year ago, and
managed to get to the museum before being transferred back to Canada. It's
a helluva place to go see airplanes. I have a ton of pictures (no website
to post them on). You'll have a great time checking out both the warbirds
and civilian planes they have in their collection.

I expect, and know, that there'll be an apres trip posting, and am looking
forward to your comments.

Jase.


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:3%Loe.18960$_o.12925@attbi_s71...
Well, our upcoming trip to Dulles has been expanded. Weather permitting,
we'll be leaving this coming Wednesday, heading up to Door County, WI,
spending the night there, and proceeding up to Mackinac Island on Thursday
for brunch. From there we ill be heading direct to the Washington, D.C.
area, over the top of the Great Lakes.

It ought to be a beautiful trip!

This routing would mean approaching Washington from the north instead of
the west. I plan to stop short of the ADIZ for lunch, get all of my
ducks in a row with an ADIZ flight plan, and then have a (relatively)
short flight into Dulles from there. (Margy, will arriving on Thursday
work, or do I have to wait till Friday?)

ANYWAY -- it appears that I've got quite a few good choices for
stopping -- but maybe you "local" guys can steer me to the best food?
I've picked a few that are right on my flight plan, but I'm open to
suggestions:

1. Bedford, PA (KMHZ) is just 35 minutes from Dulles.
2. Cumberland, MD (KCBE) is just 30 minutes from Dulles
3. Martinsburg, WV (KMRB) is just 15 minutes from Dulles

Of these three, which would you recommend? Or, alternatively, what's a
better stop?

Also, I have just started researching this ADIZ flight plan stuff. One
fellow who wrote me off-line referred to "VOR gateways" into the ADIZ,
which implies that there are set "routes" via VORs through the ADIZ into
Dulles. Is this correct, or (once I've been assigned a discrete squawk
code and have my ADIZ flight plan activated) can I fly GPS direct from the
point where I enter the ADIZ straight into Dulles?

Thanks for your help!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jase Vanover wrote:
Been lurking and understand you're going to check out the new museum at
Dulles...

Not only is Jay going to check out the museum, he's going to be on
exhibit there.

Been lurking and understand you're going to check out the new museum at
Dulles...

Not only is Jay going to check out the museum, he's going to be on
exhibit there.

And my family won't let me forget it.

"First you were a fossil...now you're a museum piece!"

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:
Been lurking and understand you're going to check out the new museum at
Dulles...


Not only is Jay going to check out the museum, he's going to be on
exhibit there.


And my family won't let me forget it.

"First you were a fossil...now you're a museum piece!"

;-)
We can put the kids on display too :-)

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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1. Bedford, PA (KMHZ) is just 35 minutes from Dulles.
2. Cumberland, MD (KCBE) is just 30 minutes from Dulles
3. Martinsburg, WV (KMRB) is just 15 minutes from Dulles

I seem to recall somebody once talking about the food at Bedford, but I've
never been. Here's a (dated) link talking about the restaurant at KMRB:
http://archives.his.com/dcpilots-l/2.../msg00272.html

I don't recall anything about KCBE. Like Michelle, I think the restaurant
at Frederick is OK and is just a short hop away.

Also, I have just started researching this ADIZ flight plan stuff. One
fellow who wrote me off-line referred to "VOR gateways" into the
ADIZ, which implies that there are set "routes" via VORs through the
ADIZ into Dulles. Is this correct, or (once I've been assigned a
discrete squawk code and have my ADIZ flight plan activated) can I
fly GPS direct from the point where I enter the ADIZ straight into
Dulles?

I haven't heard of them called "VOR gateways", but I have heard of them as
"VFR gates". Basically, they're a set of intersections for traffic
to/from the ADIZ from various points of the the compass rose. I fly from
KJYO and haven't had any problems with flight plans to/from MRB (the VOR
about four miles from the field), Winchester (KOKV) or Frederick (FDK). The
real reason for these intersections is so the correct controller position at
Potomac TRACON gets your P-strip. If you're coming from the North, I'd say
start with Frederick.

VFR in the ADIZ is still VFR - especially on busy VMC days. On slower days,
the ADIZ controller will be on a radar station and may provide unsolicited
radar services as a bonus, but plan for "own navigation".

The answer to "direct to KIAD from ADIZ point of entry" depends entirely on
your point of entry. Entering the ADIZ from the North and points
West-to-South should provide no problem. Try that from points East, though
and you'll find Atlas painted red-red-green (or painted with fire-control
radar).

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The answer to "direct to KIAD from ADIZ point of entry" depends entirely
on your point of entry. Entering the ADIZ from the North and points
West-to-South should provide no problem. Try that from points East,
though and you'll find Atlas painted red-red-green (or painted with
fire-control radar).

The bad thing is, my teenage son is MOST excited about the chance of seeing
an F-16 "up close"... something I desperately hope to avoid.

;-)

Of course, this is the same kid who wants to bring a bail of hay, buy some
bib overalls, and start chewing tobacco for our day on display, just so we
don't disappoint everyone's expectations of what an Iowan Family should look
like!

And my 11 year-old daughter is no better. Last night we were flying home
from a "$100 pie ala mode" at sunset. It was absolutely beautiful, and we
were all in quiet reverie, hovering effortlessly thousands of feet over the
darkening landscape, when her voice came over the intercom: "Dad? Do I
have to lie to everyone at the museum about how flying is fun after the
first nine years?"

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:

Of course, this is the same kid who wants to bring a bail of hay, buy
some bib overalls, and start chewing tobacco for our day on display,
just so we don't disappoint everyone's expectations of what an Iowan
Family should look like!

I know the feeling. Of course, having an Southern accent can be useful
sometimes, too.

I'm hoping to make it out to Udvar-Hazy sometime Saturday. Anybody else
looking to be there (either as guest or participant)?

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John T wrote:


I'm hoping to make it out to Udvar-Hazy sometime Saturday. Anybody else
looking to be there (either as guest or participant)?


Ron and I will be on the ramp all day long.

Margy