The ethanol nightmare has arrived!

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Avacados give a higher yield/acre then corn.

Unless the intent was to subsidize corn farmers, corn is about the
worst thing one could pick.

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Bio diesel from seaweed...read an article an area the size of Belgium would be sufficient to fuel all aircraft
needs....

Well, that's discouraging since aircraft needs are a drop in the bucket.


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Maybe, but we can run just about everything else on electricity...

You mean like trucks, trains, busses and farm and construction equipment?

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Avacados give a higher yield/acre then corn.

Unless the intent was to subsidize corn farmers, corn is about the
worst thing one could pick.

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Bio diesel from seaweed...read an article an area the size of Belgium would be sufficient to fuel all aircraft
needs....

Well, that's discouraging since aircraft needs are a drop in the bucket.


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Maybe, but we can run just about everything else on electricity...

You mean like trucks, trains, busses and farm and construction equipment?

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Avacados give a higher yield/acre then corn.

Unless the intent was to subsidize corn farmers, corn is about
the worst thing one could pick.

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Jim Pennino

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Bio diesel from seaweed...read an article an area the size of
Belgium would be sufficient to fuel all aircraft needs....

Well, that's discouraging since aircraft needs are a drop in the
bucket.


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Maybe, but we can run just about everything else on electricity...

You mean like trucks, trains, busses and farm and construction
equipment?


Electric trucks trains and busses have been around for ages. Farm
equipment? Why not?

Bertie

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Avacados give a higher yield/acre then corn.

Unless the intent was to subsidize corn farmers, corn is about
the worst thing one could pick.

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Jim Pennino

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Bio diesel from seaweed...read an article an area the size of
Belgium would be sufficient to fuel all aircraft needs....

Well, that's discouraging since aircraft needs are a drop in the
bucket.


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Jim Pennino

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Maybe, but we can run just about everything else on electricity...

You mean like trucks, trains, busses and farm and construction
equipment?


Electric trucks trains and busses have been around for ages. Farm
equipment? Why not?

LOCAL trucks, LOCAL trains, and LOCAL busses, but not those hauling
crap between cities, much less across the country.

Absent the invention of Mr. Fusion, there isn't going to be any
electric powered trucks hauling carrots from Fresno to Chicago.

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LOCAL trucks, LOCAL trains, and LOCAL busses, but not those hauling
crap between cities, much less across the country.

Absent the invention of Mr. Fusion, there isn't going to be any
electric powered trucks hauling carrots from Fresno to Chicago.

Ahem:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_locomotive


Anyway, why move the long-haul trucks when you can move the road (using
electricity) instead? Ever read Robert Heinlein's "The Roads must Roll"?
;-)

(I understand H. G. Wells had moving roads in "When the Sleeper Wakes"
though I haven't read it - even though the full text is online on a couple
sites, including project Gutenberg http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/775)

Jim Logajan wrote:
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LOCAL trucks, LOCAL trains, and LOCAL busses, but not those hauling
crap between cities, much less across the country.

Absent the invention of Mr. Fusion, there isn't going to be any
electric powered trucks hauling carrots from Fresno to Chicago.

Ahem:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_locomotive

Electric trains work in parts of Europe because a long haul there
is what would be called just down the road in the US and for local
transit such as the Bay Area Bart system.

Absent the invention of Mr. Fusion, there isn't going to be any
electric powered trains between LA and Omaha or even El Paso.

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LOCAL trucks, LOCAL trains, and LOCAL busses, but not those hauling
crap between cities, much less across the country.

Isn't the Amtrak Northeast corridor (DC to BOS) electrified?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:A...nj-transit.jpg

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Avacados give a higher yield/acre then corn.

Unless the intent was to subsidize corn farmers, corn is
about
the worst thing one could pick.

--
Jim Pennino

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Bio diesel from seaweed...read an article an area the size of
Belgium would be sufficient to fuel all aircraft needs....

Well, that's discouraging since aircraft needs are a drop in the
bucket.


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Jim Pennino

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Maybe, but we can run just about everything else on electricity...

You mean like trucks, trains, busses and farm and construction
equipment?


Electric trucks trains and busses have been around for ages. Farm
equipment? Why not?

LOCAL trucks, LOCAL trains, and LOCAL busses, but not those hauling
crap between cities, much less across the country.

Absent the invention of Mr. Fusion, there isn't going to be any
electric powered trucks hauling carrots from Fresno to Chicago.


Maybe not, but you can have long distance electric trains, no problem.

Bertie

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Jim Logajan wrote:
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LOCAL trucks, LOCAL trains, and LOCAL busses, but not those hauling
crap between cities, much less across the country.

Absent the invention of Mr. Fusion, there isn't going to be any
electric powered trucks hauling carrots from Fresno to Chicago.

Ahem:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_locomotive

Electric trains work in parts of Europe because a long haul there
is what would be called just down the road in the US and for local
transit such as the Bay Area Bart system.

What, a 2,000 mile long electric system is down the road?

Absent the invention of Mr. Fusion, there isn't going to be any
electric powered trains between LA and Omaha or even El Paso.

Not with an attitude like that there isn't!


Bertie

Electric trains work in parts of Europe because a long haul there
is what would be called just down the road in the US and for local
transit such as the Bay Area Bart system.

Absent the invention of Mr. Fusion, there isn't going to be any
electric powered trains between LA and Omaha or even El Paso.

Diesel-electric locomotives are the norm in the US. Some of those electric
engines are decades old, and going strong. Not the same, I know...but
perhaps indicative of what electric technology *can* do.

We just watched "Who Killed the Electric Car" last night. I had never seen
GM's Saturn EV-1, and was dumbfounded to see the EXACT car I was looking for
(unsuccessfully) last fall. Man, I'd buy that car in a heartbeat.
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