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Old July 22nd 04, 04:27 AM
Mike Schumann
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It is really frustrating, as a consumer, to see cars and planes sold abroad
with the latest technology, getting 30% better fuel economy, and the same
products are not available here, because the manufacturers have the attitude
that US consumers don't care about fuel efficiency.

When you look at the increased range and payload possible with the DA40 with
a diesel engine, due to its significantly lower fuel consumption, you'd be
crazy to buy anything but a diesel, unless there are issues with the newness
of the engine.

Mike Schumann

"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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Mike,

I'm surprised there isn't more interest in the diesel version in the US.
What percentage of DA40s sold in Europe are diesel vs. gas?


It is not offered in the US. Simple as that.

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Thomas Borchert (EDDH)



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Old July 22nd 04, 05:28 AM
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Was it the performance, or the lack of any idea how to fix the things, or
the amount of scheduled and non scheduled downtime?



"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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Dude,

Diamond has
decided to offer Lycoming engines as an alternate for the Twin Star

(which
must really please Textron)


Diamond has been bitten before when introducing a new engine to the US
market, the Rotax. So they're careful. The US market is strongly in the

grip
of what I like to call "pilot inertia", as evident here in the group.

"We've
always done it that way, so we'll keep doing it that way" is strong in

the
pilot community.


The US pilot community is that way for a reason. The performance of the
Rotax was miserable. Embry-Riddle ended up getting rid of all their

Katanas
because of it.




  #113  
Old July 22nd 04, 05:32 AM
Dude
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When you look at the increased range and payload possible with the DA40
with
a diesel engine, due to its significantly lower fuel consumption, you'd be
crazy to buy anything but a diesel, unless there are issues with the

newness
of the engine.


Exactly, the problem. In addition , the American market has been less
forgiving and experimental than the european market. I don't know why. But
that seems to be the belief of the manufacturers.

The margins are low, and the risks are high, and so less chances will be
taken here than over there.



  #114  
Old July 22nd 04, 08:56 AM
Thomas Borchert
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Mike,

because the manufacturers have the attitude
that US consumers don't care about fuel efficiency.


Is it the attitude of the manufacturers or that of the majority of the
consumers?

unless there are issues with the newness
of the engine.


There are issues - as with anything new. Nothing deal-breaking, though, AFAIK.

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Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

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Old July 22nd 04, 09:01 AM
C J Campbell
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"Dude" wrote in message
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Was it the performance, or the lack of any idea how to fix the things, or
the amount of scheduled and non scheduled downtime?


I understood it was both.


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Old July 22nd 04, 05:40 PM
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message ...
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C,

I suppose the NTSB site would be worth investigating.


IIRC, you'd find zero fatal accidents. Zero, zip, nada. Same for the
DA20. Pretty impressive.


Actually, there is one fatal for the DA 20.


That was a DA20 Katana with the Rotax engine. I fly out of Leesburg,
and based on informal discussions there and when I was taking
ultralight lessons, it seems that the Rotax has a tendency to carb ice
easily. That might be the unexplained reason.

I fly a DA20 Eclipse (rent), it has a Continental and is very nice,
albeit a little snug for 6' 3" pilot.

-Malcolm Teas
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Old July 22nd 04, 05:40 PM
Malcolm Teas
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message ...
"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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C,

I suppose the NTSB site would be worth investigating.


IIRC, you'd find zero fatal accidents. Zero, zip, nada. Same for the
DA20. Pretty impressive.


Actually, there is one fatal for the DA 20.


That was a DA20 Katana with the Rotax engine. I fly out of Leesburg,
and based on informal discussions there and when I was taking
ultralight lessons, it seems that the Rotax has a tendency to carb ice
easily. That might be the unexplained reason.

I fly a DA20 Eclipse (rent), it has a Continental and is very nice,
albeit a little snug for 6' 3" pilot.

-Malcolm Teas
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Old July 22nd 04, 05:40 PM
Malcolm Teas
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message ...
"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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C,

I suppose the NTSB site would be worth investigating.


IIRC, you'd find zero fatal accidents. Zero, zip, nada. Same for the
DA20. Pretty impressive.


Actually, there is one fatal for the DA 20.


That was a DA20 Katana with the Rotax engine. I fly out of Leesburg,
and based on informal discussions there and when I was taking
ultralight lessons, it seems that the Rotax has a tendency to carb ice
easily. That might be the unexplained reason.

I fly a DA20 Eclipse (rent), it has a Continental and is very nice,
albeit a little snug for 6' 3" pilot.

-Malcolm Teas
 




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