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Old August 11th 06, 02:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
RH[_1_]
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OK so I've had the Bonanza about a month now, and I'm absolutely in
love with the speed and comfort of this plane.

I really want to go up to Canada to visit some relatives, but I dont
yet have the permanent FAA registration, and the temporary registration
has a big "NOT VALID IF OPERATED OUTSIDE OF THE US" stamped on it.

Does anyone know if I can get a waiver or something to allow a trip
outside of the US? And, for that matter who really cares? I don't say
that to be smart, I mean is it US Customs? Canadian customs?
Transport Canada? If Canada doesnt mind, then by the time we come back
to the US we will be in the US so wont it all be moot?

Anyone dealt with this before?

Richard

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Old August 11th 06, 07:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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On 10-Aug-2006, "RH" wrote:

And, for that matter who really cares?



Last time I flew into Canada, about 3 months ago, the Customs Canada
inspector asked to see the airplane registration and Airworthiness
Certificate. If you present a pink slip under those circumstances you
probably will be denied entry and may be subject to a fine or worse.

Upon returning from Canada, the US Customs insector also asked to see the
registration. I don't want to think of what would have happened if I had
tried to get by with a pink slip, but it would have been bad.

With all the heightened border security, why take a chance? You really
don't want to risk having that sweet Bonanza impounded, do you?

-Elliott Drucker
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Old August 11th 06, 12:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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Call OK City and ask the person at the FAA office what you can do to
expedite your permanat registration..

denny

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Old August 11th 06, 03:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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Denny wrote:
: Call OK City and ask the person at the FAA office what you can do to
: expedite your permanat registration..

We had to expedite our registration before our Alaska trip last summer. There
are some magic words to utter on the registration if you want it expedited, but I'm
sure if you call you can get the status.

You definately don't want to try to cross the boarder with improper paperwork.
Customs (both sides) checked us all out. The particularly annoying thing was that
technically speaking, an FCC radio license was required for the crossing. We got one,
even though everyone we talked to (including customs before we left) said nobody ever
checked.... and nobody did. By the books it's required though.

-Cory

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Old August 11th 06, 07:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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OK City will issue you a temporary that is valid for international
crossing. Just give them a call a week in advance.

-Robert, CFI

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Old August 11th 06, 11:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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Hey thanks for all the replies & great advice!

I think for this weekend we will just fly as close to the border as we
can - IAG (Niagara Falls) and drive the 90 minutes from there.

Richard

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Old August 12th 06, 12:46 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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you're pretty close in time anyway.

i bought my 172 in april this year and had the white paper in hand
right about 30 days later.

dan


RH wrote:
Hey thanks for all the replies & great advice!

I think for this weekend we will just fly as close to the border as we
can - IAG (Niagara Falls) and drive the 90 minutes from there.

Richard


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Old August 12th 06, 12:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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Fill this out!

Declaration of International Operations Form
http://www.aircraftdelivery.net/ferr...ms/IntlFlt.pdf

& Instructions
http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certific...on_operat ion


Enjoy & Have Fun!





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OK so I've had the Bonanza about a month now, and I'm absolutely in
love with the speed and comfort of this plane.

I really want to go up to Canada to visit some relatives, but I dont
yet have the permanent FAA registration, and the temporary registration
has a big "NOT VALID IF OPERATED OUTSIDE OF THE US" stamped on it.

Does anyone know if I can get a waiver or something to allow a trip
outside of the US? And, for that matter who really cares? I don't say
that to be smart, I mean is it US Customs? Canadian customs?
Transport Canada? If Canada doesnt mind, then by the time we come back
to the US we will be in the US so wont it all be moot?

Anyone dealt with this before?

Richard



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Old August 13th 06, 05:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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RH wrote:
OK so I've had the Bonanza about a month now, and I'm absolutely in
love with the speed and comfort of this plane.

I really want to go up to Canada to visit some relatives, but I dont
yet have the permanent FAA registration, and the temporary registration
has a big "NOT VALID IF OPERATED OUTSIDE OF THE US" stamped on it.

Does anyone know if I can get a waiver or something to allow a trip
outside of the US? And, for that matter who really cares? I don't say
that to be smart, I mean is it US Customs? Canadian customs?
Transport Canada? If Canada doesnt mind, then by the time we come back
to the US we will be in the US so wont it all be moot?

Anyone dealt with this before?

Richard


Richard,

What you need is a "fly wire" its faxed copy of the registration from
the FAA out of Oklahama City. You can contact 510-748-0122 ext 246 and
ask the person who answeres to assist you he is very helpful.

Stache

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Old August 14th 06, 02:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
RH[_1_]
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Stache & NW Pilot - thank you!!

I should have posted this earlier in the week to allow for just a
little more time to get the documentation right. As it is we just
returned from IAG, and the vehicle traffic on the border from CAN to
USA was a bear. Lots of heightened security no doubt due to the recent
UK terror plot.

It was a great trip otherwise - and what fantastic weather! And this
was the sort of "spur of the moment" trip that is just about impossible
to do when you are a renter pilot.

Thanks to all who posted.

Richard

 




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