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Old December 16th 16, 02:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 12:20:27 PM UTC-8, Ross wrote:
These guys seem to think this will work...


Well, of course it will work. When you have a billionaire footing the bills, you can make anything work. The real question is, does it make enough difference to justify the extra expense in the absence of such extraordinary measures?
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Old December 16th 16, 04:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I wonder if anyone said the same thing about computers in the early days, Bob!
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Old December 16th 16, 06:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Who is funding this project. looks very interesting.
On Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 12:20:27 PM UTC-8, Ross wrote:
These guys seem to think this will work

https://www.facebook.com/NixusProject/


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Old December 16th 16, 11:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2016 20:57:17 -0800, roel.baardman wrote:

I wonder if anyone said the same thing about computers in the early
days, Bob!


Unlikely that anybody did.

The very first electronic computers were built for code-breaking and to
calculate artillery range tables. Yes, these tasks could be done
manually, but not nearly as fast. Colossus played a major part in winning
WW2 while ENIAC went on from generating range tables to help design
second generation nukes: the Fat Man design calculations were done using
a roomful of IBM card equipment. See Richard Fyneman's books for more
detail.

The first commercial computers were built by Lyons in the UK. Lyons was
the Starbucks of its day, and used the first machine to streamline bakery
production for the next day's teashop requirements. That was a success
from day one, at least partly because they knew exactly what they wanted
the machine to do and the company already had a solid background in
process optimisation.


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Old December 16th 16, 02:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 5:24:30 AM UTC-6, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Thu, 15 Dec 2016 20:57:17 -0800, roel.baardman wrote:

I wonder if anyone said the same thing about computers in the early
days, Bob!


Unlikely that anybody did.

The very first electronic computers were built for code-breaking and to
calculate artillery range tables. Yes, these tasks could be done
manually, but not nearly as fast. Colossus played a major part in winning
WW2 while ENIAC went on from generating range tables to help design
second generation nukes: the Fat Man design calculations were done using
a roomful of IBM card equipment. See Richard Fyneman's books for more
detail.

The first commercial computers were built by Lyons in the UK. Lyons was
the Starbucks of its day, and used the first machine to streamline bakery
production for the next day's teashop requirements. That was a success
from day one, at least partly because they knew exactly what they wanted
the machine to do and the company already had a solid background in
process optimisation.


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Very unfortunate that these early UK computers never caught on, Martin. I hear rumors that you guys couldn't figure out how to make them leak oil?
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Old December 16th 16, 03:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Ouch! Since my first motorcycle was a BSA (bolts, screws, and
adjustments) I'm conversant with oil leaks...

On 12/16/2016 7:53 AM, wrote:
On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 5:24:30 AM UTC-6, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Thu, 15 Dec 2016 20:57:17 -0800, roel.baardman wrote:

I wonder if anyone said the same thing about computers in the early
days, Bob!

Unlikely that anybody did.

The very first electronic computers were built for code-breaking and to
calculate artillery range tables. Yes, these tasks could be done
manually, but not nearly as fast. Colossus played a major part in winning
WW2 while ENIAC went on from generating range tables to help design
second generation nukes: the Fat Man design calculations were done using
a roomful of IBM card equipment. See Richard Fyneman's books for more
detail.

The first commercial computers were built by Lyons in the UK. Lyons was
the Starbucks of its day, and used the first machine to streamline bakery
production for the next day's teashop requirements. That was a success
from day one, at least partly because they knew exactly what they wanted
the machine to do and the company already had a solid background in
process optimisation.


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gregorie. | Essex, UK
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Very unfortunate that these early UK computers never caught on, Martin. I hear rumors that you guys couldn't figure out how to make them leak oil?


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Old December 16th 16, 03:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Lucas: Prince of Darkness

Lucas 3-position switch:

Dim
Flicker
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Old December 16th 16, 04:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I would have thought the electrical systems of those first UK computers would have been the downfall. I have found the Italians' are great for self rust inhibiting (oil leaks, Agusta). All kidding and references to British cars and motorcycles aside, the Brits have a rich history in innovation. A few military innovations come to mind, radar, angled carrier decks, steel carrier decks, tanks (think M1A1 type)...

Thanks for the history on early computers.
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Old December 16th 16, 04:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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....And why do Brits drink their beer at room temperature? Because
their refrigerators are built by Lucas, of course.

On 12/16/2016 8:37 AM, wrote:
Lucas: Prince of Darkness

Lucas 3-position switch:

Dim
Flicker
Short


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Old December 16th 16, 06:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Not room temp but cellar temp, 12c

At 16:31 16 December 2016, Dan Marotta wrote:
....And why do Brits drink their beer at room temperature? Because
their refrigerators are built by Lucas, of course.

On 12/16/2016 8:37 AM, wrote:
Lucas: Prince of Darkness

Lucas 3-position switch:

Dim
Flicker
Short


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