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Matthew Walster wrote: In the UK, it's only legal to land on a road at night, in an emergency, and if there is absolutely no alternative that would end in the same or better result... I'm suprised the US isn't the same... Land of the free and home of the brave...especially if you land on a country road at night. Buddy of mine did that in his Cessna 180, while doing his 180 degree turn on the road he wiped out a mail box next to the highway. Needed quite a bit of duct tape to get back home. |
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Mark Hansen wrote: I don't have my book here at the moment, so I can't quote the specific FARs, but I think they say you must have permission before landing. No, no FAR says anything of the sort. Where you land is not of concern to the FAA. Because all land is owned by someone (generally) you cannot land anywhere without permission. Generally true but this is almost always a local, not federal issue. |
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Wonder if AOPA has somthing burried in their site. I have sent an e-mail to
them. "Newps" wrote in message ... And remember, you may never legally land on a US Highway or Interstate in any state. Here in Montana you don't need to contact anybody in advance of your landing although that's never a bad thing to do. NW_PILOT wrote: Ok, this may sound like an odd question but here it goes is there a list of State laws Concerning Landing On Public Roads? The only one i have found is for Montana: The following is taken directly from the Montana Code; MCA 67-1-204 (3) Lawfulness of Flight and Landings: Aircraft landings and takeoffs from public roads in this state are lawful if proper safety precautions, as approved by the governing jurisdiction of the roads, are taken prior to the landing or takeoff, except as otherwise provided in this section. However, the local governing jurisdiction may not incur liability as a result of an approval under this subsection. |
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Hash: SHA1 In rec.aviation.piloting Newps wrote: And remember, you may never legally land on a US Highway or Interstate in any state. Here in Montana you don't need to contact anybody in advance of your landing although that's never a bad thing to do. On the contrary. In Nevada, especially on US Highways 93 and 95, they have in the middle of the pavement (sometimes 2 lane, sometimes 4) an airplane insignia facing both directions up and down the highway, with a listed number in feet of how long the road is straight (without any turns). Those markings are there for planes to use for landing in case of an emergency, provided no cars are obstructing that stretch of land. I was out just north of Coaldale NV (heads towards KHTH and Reno) when such an incident happened. The pilot couldn't make it to TPH, and TNX is Miliary, so he had no choice but to land on the road. Luckily, I was off the road. He landed safely and was hauled off by ambulance. Don't know what happened. But it is entirely possible (and legal) if you have no choice but to land on a US Highway. Interstate highways, are a different story. There is supposed to be some law on the books from either Eisenhower's or Truman's Presidency (perhaps revised later) when the Interstate system was created. Every x amount of miles, the interstate must be in a straight line (no turns), with no bridges OVER it, in case planes need to land in emergency. I remember vaguely reading about this at the FBO at KVGT, but can't remember which law mandated this. BL. - -- Brad Littlejohn | Email: Unix Systems Administrator, | Web + NewsMaster, BOFH.. Smeghead! | http://www.sbcglobal.net/~tyketto PGP: 1024D/E319F0BF 6980 AAD6 7329 E9E6 D569 F620 C819 199A E319 F0BF -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBuPVgyBkZmuMZ8L8RAqczAKCulyiY9cQCnH5rHbq2Ix RAxqgSdgCgpcgp Pb897jEUd3dxcuECQ/87crg= =I4hK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Interstate 71 north of Cincinnati, between the 41 and 44 mile markers.
Two parallel 15,000 runways. They are repaving this stretch. The old pavement was 12 inches of concrete with 6 inches of asphalt overlay. Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, the Springfield ANG and Rickenbacker ANG bases are within 30-40 miles of this site. A Guy Called Tyketto wrote: Interstate highways, are a different story. There is supposed to be some law on the books from either Eisenhower's or Truman's Presidency (perhaps revised later) when the Interstate system was created. Every x amount of miles, the interstate must be in a straight line (no turns), with no bridges OVER it, in case planes need to land in emergency. I remember vaguely reading about this at the FBO at KVGT, but can't remember which law mandated this. |
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NW_PILOT wrote: Wonder if AOPA has somthing burried in their site. I have sent an e-mail to them. They might but you'd be a lot better off going to each states department of transportation, or where ever their aviation people are. |
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in California.. they get upset if you use a dry lake bed
BT "Robert M. Gary" wrote in message oups.com... In California they'd probably get you for not passing a SMOG test first. -Robert |
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A Guy Called Tyketto wrote: On the contrary. In Nevada, especially on US Highways 93 and 95, they have in the middle of the pavement (sometimes 2 lane, sometimes 4) an airplane insignia facing both directions up and down the highway, with a listed number in feet of how long the road is straight (without any turns). Those markings are there for planes to use for landing in case of an emergency, provided no cars are obstructing that stretch of land. I was out just north of Coaldale NV (heads towards KHTH and Reno) when such an incident happened. The pilot couldn't make it to TPH, and TNX is Miliary, so he had no choice but to land on the road. Luckily, I was off the road. He landed safely and was hauled off by ambulance. Don't know what happened. But it is entirely possible (and legal) if you have no choice but to land on a US Highway. That's not contrary to what I said. You can land anywhere you want in an emergency. We're not talking emergencies in this thread but every day operations. Interstate highways, are a different story. There is supposed to be some law on the books from either Eisenhower's or Truman's Presidency (perhaps revised later) when the Interstate system was created. Every x amount of miles, the interstate must be in a straight line (no turns), with no bridges OVER it, in case planes need to land in emergency. I remember vaguely reading about this at the FBO at KVGT, but can't remember which law mandated this. Again, not what we're talking about. You keep bringing up emergencies and that is not relavant to the discussion. |
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A Guy Called Tyketto wrote: Interstate highways, are a different story. There is supposed to be some law on the books from either Eisenhower's or Truman's Presidency (perhaps revised later) when the Interstate system was created. Never happened. See http://www.snopes.com/autos/law/airstrip.asp George Patterson The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise. |
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"Newps" wrote:
No, no FAR says anything of the sort. Where you land is not of concern to the FAA. Indirectly, it can be of concern to the FAA, through the infamous catchall of reckless operation. There are at least a couple NTSB cases where a reckless charge was upheld against a helicopter pilot for landing (nonemergency) in a place which posed a potential hazard to people or property. So where a State has a similar reckless operation law as most do, but not a specific prohibition as to where one may not land, I see nothing stopping them from charging and litigating the case under the same line of reasoning if the circumstances support it. But if not factually supportable, it should be OK, but with the caution that the potential offense is generally a misdemeanor. Fred F. |
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