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Old December 10th 04, 12:35 AM
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Matthew Walster wrote:

In the UK, it's only legal to land on a road at night, in an emergency, and
if there is absolutely no alternative that would end in the same or better
result... I'm suprised the US isn't the same...


Land of the free and home of the brave...especially if you land on a
country road at night. Buddy of mine did that in his Cessna 180, while
doing his 180 degree turn on the road he wiped out a mail box next to
the highway. Needed quite a bit of duct tape to get back home.
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Old December 10th 04, 12:37 AM
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Mark Hansen wrote:


I don't have my book here at the moment, so I can't quote the
specific FARs, but I think they say you must have permission
before landing.


No, no FAR says anything of the sort. Where you land is not of concern
to the FAA.


Because all land is owned by someone (generally)
you cannot land anywhere without permission.


Generally true but this is almost always a local, not federal issue.

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Old December 10th 04, 12:44 AM
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Wonder if AOPA has somthing burried in their site. I have sent an e-mail to
them.


"Newps" wrote in message
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And remember, you may never legally land on a US Highway or Interstate
in any state. Here in Montana you don't need to contact anybody in
advance of your landing although that's never a bad thing to do.



NW_PILOT wrote:

Ok, this may sound like an odd question but here it goes is there a list

of
State laws Concerning Landing On Public Roads?

The only one i have found is for Montana:

The following is taken directly from the Montana Code; MCA 67-1-204 (3)
Lawfulness of Flight and Landings:

Aircraft landings and takeoffs from public roads in this state are

lawful if
proper safety precautions, as approved by the governing jurisdiction of

the
roads, are taken prior to the landing or takeoff, except as otherwise
provided in this section. However, the local governing jurisdiction may

not
incur liability as a result of an approval under this subsection.




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Old December 10th 04, 01:01 AM
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In rec.aviation.piloting Newps wrote:
And remember, you may never legally land on a US Highway or Interstate
in any state. Here in Montana you don't need to contact anybody in
advance of your landing although that's never a bad thing to do.


On the contrary.

In Nevada, especially on US Highways 93 and 95, they have in
the middle of the pavement (sometimes 2 lane, sometimes 4) an airplane
insignia facing both directions up and down the highway, with a listed
number in feet of how long the road is straight (without any turns).
Those markings are there for planes to use for landing in case of an
emergency, provided no cars are obstructing that stretch of land. I was
out just north of Coaldale NV (heads towards KHTH and Reno) when such
an incident happened. The pilot couldn't make it to TPH, and TNX is
Miliary, so he had no choice but to land on the road. Luckily, I was
off the road. He landed safely and was hauled off by ambulance. Don't
know what happened. But it is entirely possible (and legal) if you have
no choice but to land on a US Highway.

Interstate highways, are a different story. There is supposed
to be some law on the books from either Eisenhower's or Truman's
Presidency (perhaps revised later) when the Interstate system was
created. Every x amount of miles, the interstate must be in a straight
line (no turns), with no bridges OVER it, in case planes need to land
in emergency. I remember vaguely reading about this at the FBO at KVGT,
but can't remember which law mandated this.

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Old December 10th 04, 01:34 AM
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Interstate 71 north of Cincinnati, between the 41 and 44 mile markers.
Two parallel 15,000 runways.
They are repaving this stretch. The old pavement was 12 inches of
concrete with 6 inches of asphalt overlay.
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, the Springfield ANG and Rickenbacker
ANG bases are within 30-40 miles of this site.

A Guy Called Tyketto wrote:
Interstate highways, are a different story. There is supposed
to be some law on the books from either Eisenhower's or Truman's
Presidency (perhaps revised later) when the Interstate system was
created. Every x amount of miles, the interstate must be in a straight
line (no turns), with no bridges OVER it, in case planes need to land
in emergency. I remember vaguely reading about this at the FBO at KVGT,
but can't remember which law mandated this.


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Old December 10th 04, 02:23 AM
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NW_PILOT wrote:
Wonder if AOPA has somthing burried in their site. I have sent an e-mail to
them.


They might but you'd be a lot better off going to each states department
of transportation, or where ever their aviation people are.

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Old December 10th 04, 02:29 AM
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in California.. they get upset if you use a dry lake bed
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Old December 10th 04, 02:32 AM
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A Guy Called Tyketto wrote:



On the contrary.

In Nevada, especially on US Highways 93 and 95, they have in
the middle of the pavement (sometimes 2 lane, sometimes 4) an airplane
insignia facing both directions up and down the highway, with a listed
number in feet of how long the road is straight (without any turns).
Those markings are there for planes to use for landing in case of an
emergency, provided no cars are obstructing that stretch of land. I was
out just north of Coaldale NV (heads towards KHTH and Reno) when such
an incident happened. The pilot couldn't make it to TPH, and TNX is
Miliary, so he had no choice but to land on the road. Luckily, I was
off the road. He landed safely and was hauled off by ambulance. Don't
know what happened. But it is entirely possible (and legal) if you have
no choice but to land on a US Highway.


That's not contrary to what I said. You can land anywhere you want in
an emergency. We're not talking emergencies in this thread but every
day operations.



Interstate highways, are a different story. There is supposed
to be some law on the books from either Eisenhower's or Truman's
Presidency (perhaps revised later) when the Interstate system was
created. Every x amount of miles, the interstate must be in a straight
line (no turns), with no bridges OVER it, in case planes need to land
in emergency. I remember vaguely reading about this at the FBO at KVGT,
but can't remember which law mandated this.


Again, not what we're talking about. You keep bringing up emergencies
and that is not relavant to the discussion.

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Old December 10th 04, 02:55 AM
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A Guy Called Tyketto wrote:

Interstate highways, are a different story. There is supposed
to be some law on the books from either Eisenhower's or Truman's
Presidency (perhaps revised later) when the Interstate system was
created.


Never happened. See http://www.snopes.com/autos/law/airstrip.asp

George Patterson
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Old December 10th 04, 03:38 AM
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"Newps" wrote:

No, no FAR says anything of the sort. Where you land is not of

concern
to the FAA.


Indirectly, it can be of concern to the FAA, through the infamous
catchall of reckless operation. There are at least a couple NTSB
cases where a reckless charge was upheld against a helicopter pilot
for landing (nonemergency) in a place which posed a potential hazard
to people or property.

So where a State has a similar reckless operation law as most do, but
not a specific prohibition as to where one may not land, I see nothing
stopping them from charging and litigating the case under the same
line of reasoning if the circumstances support it. But if not
factually supportable, it should be OK, but with the caution that the
potential offense is generally a misdemeanor.

Fred F.

 




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