The FAA is marching toward sole dependence on GPS- Is that a mistake?

The FAA is marching toward sole dependence on GPS. However,
the FAA engineers and controllers are screaming from the
mountaintops PLEASE do not single thread North American
airspace navigation on satellite only.

Yes GPS is awesome. Yes GPS has and will change our lives.
But the signal is small and vulnerable. From an
infrastructure perspective all you have to do is jam the
down link. IF we were GPS only in North American Air Traffic
control the Chinese or sophisticated internal terrorism
could shut down the system.

High Power GPS jammers energized at coordinated locations
near big cities. Mobile jammers in vans. GPS jammers and
Spoofers on balloons launched up wind from major cities.

We would come to our knees. It would take days to sort out
the jammer locations while our entire economy is crippled.

GPS can be PRIMARY But!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we should have a
secondary Robust ground network for Navigation and
Communication of aircraft, military, trucks and ships and
trains and people.

Use an integrated GPS/VOR/DME/LORAN concept. All GPS
receivers sold after 2010 everywhere should be capable of
picking up all four systems. FOUR separate frequencies for
more spectrum jamming difficulty. Keep ILS at major airports.

If the idiots in FAA Management that are filled with
clueless failed diversity experiment's allow our nations
civil and military air traffic control to hang on the single
thread of GPS the Chinese will be choking on their egg rolls
laughing so hard. And the Russians will snort vodka out
their nose.

Mission should ALWAYS come first. Politically Correct warm
and fuzzy bull**** can wait.

FAA CIVIL RIGHTS SCAM

Go to www.loran.org and be educated.

Bob Gardner

"BarneyFife" wrote in message
...
The FAA is marching toward sole dependence on GPS. However, the FAA
engineers and controllers are screaming from the mountaintops PLEASE do
not single thread North American airspace navigation on satellite only.

Yes GPS is awesome. Yes GPS has and will change our lives. But the signal
is small and vulnerable. From an infrastructure perspective all you have
to do is jam the down link. IF we were GPS only in North American Air
Traffic control the Chinese or sophisticated internal terrorism could shut
down the system.

High Power GPS jammers energized at coordinated locations
near big cities. Mobile jammers in vans. GPS jammers and Spoofers on
balloons launched up wind from major cities.

We would come to our knees. It would take days to sort out the jammer
locations while our entire economy is crippled.

GPS can be PRIMARY But!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we should have a secondary Robust
ground network for Navigation and Communication of aircraft, military,
trucks and ships and trains and people.

Use an integrated GPS/VOR/DME/LORAN concept. All GPS receivers sold after
2010 everywhere should be capable of picking up all four systems. FOUR
separate frequencies for more spectrum jamming difficulty. Keep ILS at
major airports.

If the idiots in FAA Management that are filled with clueless failed
diversity experiment's allow our nations civil and military air traffic
control to hang on the single thread of GPS the Chinese will be choking on
their egg rolls laughing so hard. And the Russians will snort vodka out
their nose.

Mission should ALWAYS come first. Politically Correct warm and fuzzy
bull**** can wait.

FAA CIVIL RIGHTS SCAM

"BarneyFife" wrote in message ...
The FAA is marching toward sole dependence on GPS. However, the FAA engineers and
controllers are screaming from the mountaintops PLEASE do not single thread North
American airspace navigation on satellite only.
....
Mission should ALWAYS come first. Politically Correct warm and fuzzy bull**** can
wait.

FAA CIVIL RIGHTS SCAM

What's that got to do with GPS nav? You can debate the merits of the proposal but an
all male, all white FAA would be moving in that same direction.

Between the narc sniffer dogs and the EEOC, your life must be a living hell.

BarneyFife writes:

The FAA is marching toward sole dependence on GPS. However,
the FAA engineers and controllers are screaming from the
mountaintops PLEASE do not single thread North American
airspace navigation on satellite only.

Depending on GPS exclusively is extremely unwise. However, lots of people
often do things that are extremely unwise.

From an
infrastructure perspective all you have to do is jam the
down link.

Spoofing the signal is even better, as then you can control where the traffic
moves without it being aware of your interference. And that's easy, too.

GPS can be PRIMARY But!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we should have a
secondary Robust ground network for Navigation and
Communication of aircraft, military, trucks and ships and
trains and people.

We still have VOR/DME. As long as that remains in place it provides some
backup, although very complex RNAV navigation might be problematic with VORs
alone, and many crews will eventually forget how to do anything except GPS
RNAV.

Keep ILS at major airports.

Currently GPS cannot replace ILS.

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

BarneyFife writes:

The FAA is marching toward sole dependence on GPS. However,
the FAA engineers and controllers are screaming from the
mountaintops PLEASE do not single thread North American
airspace navigation on satellite only.

Depending on GPS exclusively is extremely unwise.


How would you know, fukkwit?

You don't fly.

Bertie

Did you see the guy who signed the intro Langhorne Bond? He
used to be FAA administrator back in the days when the FAA
had it's **** together and was the envy of Government service.

The FAA filled their top ranks with female and minority
idiots under the guise of "Affirmative Action" back when
Clinton came on as president and basically destroyed the
organization and left it to die on the vine.

Loran is good stuff. Has a few night time interference and
sun spot issues but it along with GPS could provide a good
robust system. I still like keeping some VOR and DME
stations also on the continental US landmass

Bob Gardner wrote:
Go to www.loran.org and be educated.

Bob Gardner

"BarneyFife" wrote in message
...
The FAA is marching toward sole dependence on GPS. However, the FAA
engineers and controllers are screaming from the mountaintops PLEASE
do not single thread North American airspace navigation on satellite
only.

Yes GPS is awesome. Yes GPS has and will change our lives. But the
signal is small and vulnerable. From an infrastructure perspective all
you have to do is jam the down link. IF we were GPS only in North
American Air Traffic control the Chinese or sophisticated internal
terrorism could shut down the system.

High Power GPS jammers energized at coordinated locations
near big cities. Mobile jammers in vans. GPS jammers and Spoofers on
balloons launched up wind from major cities.

We would come to our knees. It would take days to sort out the jammer
locations while our entire economy is crippled.

GPS can be PRIMARY But!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we should have a secondary Robust
ground network for Navigation and Communication of aircraft, military,
trucks and ships and trains and people.

Use an integrated GPS/VOR/DME/LORAN concept. All GPS receivers sold
after 2010 everywhere should be capable of picking up all four
systems. FOUR separate frequencies for more spectrum jamming
difficulty. Keep ILS at major airports.

If the idiots in FAA Management that are filled with clueless failed
diversity experiment's allow our nations civil and military air
traffic control to hang on the single thread of GPS the Chinese will
be choking on their egg rolls laughing so hard. And the Russians will
snort vodka out their nose.

Mission should ALWAYS come first. Politically Correct warm and fuzzy
bull**** can wait.

FAA CIVIL RIGHTS SCAM

John Mazor wrote:
"BarneyFife" wrote in message ...
The FAA is marching toward sole dependence on GPS. However, the FAA engineers and
controllers are screaming from the mountaintops PLEASE do not single thread North
American airspace navigation on satellite only.
...
Mission should ALWAYS come first. Politically Correct warm and fuzzy bull**** can
wait.

FAA CIVIL RIGHTS SCAM

What's that got to do with GPS nav? You can debate the merits of the proposal but an
all male, all white FAA would be moving in that same direction.

Between the narc sniffer dogs and the EEOC, your life must be a living hell.



EEOC? You mean Guvment goon squads? **** them any Government
person comes to my house to hassle me over free speech
issues they may turn into hog food.

America is a free country sir. I never said all male or all
white FAA I said "QUALIFIED" people not politically correct
experiments who are clueless and unqualified for FAA duty.

The FAA is no place for social engineering experiments