An Olive Branch

"Cecil Chapman" wrote in message
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Jefferson would have been a staunch libertarian

Read his opinions regarding the potential electorate of the people/comman
man,,,, VERY interesting.

I would guess that he was probably right about the people of his time
(education level - rather lack thereof among the 'common folk').

People may be more literate today, but frankly I don't see how they are
significantly better educated. Most people view school as a chore to get
through (and thus retain very little of whatever they "learn"), and our
educational system doesn't really teach very much in the way of useful
critical thinking skills anyway.

Other than being able to read and write, and perhaps knowing a few more
facts about historical dates, how to conjugate a verb, and how to calculate
a tip, I don't really see how the current "common folk" are much different
from those that were around 200+ years ago.

Pete

Other than being able to read and write, and perhaps knowing a few more
facts about historical dates, how to conjugate a verb, and how to
calculate a tip, I don't really see how the current "common folk" are much
different from those that were around 200+ years ago.

The differences you imply to be insignificant are quite what differentiates
the ignorant from the educated.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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The differences you imply to be insignificant are quite what
differentiates the ignorant from the educated.

They do not, however, help a person to make an intelligent decision. Not
about politics, nor anything else. Nor are today's "common folk" any better
at doing that sort of thing than the "common folk" of 200+ years ago, IMHO.

It is in that respect that those differences are insignificant...for you to
infer that I meant anything else makes no sense.

(John Galban) wrote in message . com...
(David Johnson) wrote in message om...
I, for one, will be more than happy to see all this animosity evaporate,
so that we can get back to the fun of talking about flying!

My regret is that we have to be subjected to this crap in the first place.
It is well known that religion and politics get the juices flowing like
nothing else (except perhaps aviation?). If it were up to me, I would
cause off-topic material to be deleted.

snip rest of off-topic post

And yet, you posted this. Ironic, to say the least :-)

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

I don't agree. IMHO a discussion of what appears here is very much
On Topic (as opposed to the perhaps questionable content itself).

A good question, though, is who decides what goes and what stays.
Opinions are like asses - everybody has one. Like I said, nobody
makes you read (what is to you) offensive material. I think that a
good personal policy is to ignore rather than react.

David Johnson

David Johnson

The number of degrees granted can mislead one to assume that we have a
better educated public today. In fact, our standards of achievement in
higher education is considerably lower. Many decades ago, a doctorate
degree meant that you spent a great deal of time thinking about critical
issues and fundamentally new ideas. That is no longer true. A doctorate
means you took several courses and completed a project. As a result we
have a large number of people with higher degres. The fraction of
population that spends time on critical thinking is probably the same as
it was a century ago.



"Peter Duniho" wrote in
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"Cecil Chapman" wrote in message
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Jefferson would have been a staunch libertarian

Read his opinions regarding the potential electorate of the
people/comman man,,,, VERY interesting.

I would guess that he was probably right about the people of his time
(education level - rather lack thereof among the 'common folk').

People may be more literate today, but frankly I don't see how they
are significantly better educated. Most people view school as a chore
to get through (and thus retain very little of whatever they "learn"),
and our educational system doesn't really teach very much in the way
of useful critical thinking skills anyway.

Other than being able to read and write, and perhaps knowing a few
more facts about historical dates, how to conjugate a verb, and how to
calculate a tip, I don't really see how the current "common folk" are
much different from those that were around 200+ years ago.

Pete




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I guess you heard about the agnostic, dyslexic, insomniac pilot? He tossed
and turned all night pondering if there really is a Dog!

--

Darrell R. Schmidt
B-58 Hustler History: http://members.cox.net/dschmidt1/
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"Wdtabor" wrote in message
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I should also mention again that Bush's brother was diagnosed as being
dyslexic and dyslexia does run in families.


OK, all the dyslexic fighter pilots here, raise your hands.

--
Wm. Donald (Don) Tabor Jr., DDS
PP-ASEL
Chesapeake, VA - CPK, PVG

That's a doG.

Jim


"Darrell S"
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

-I guess you heard about the agnostic, dyslexic, insomniac pilot? He tossed
-and turned all night pondering if there really is a Dog!



Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

Andrew...

I'm not trying to start a flame war, just seeing exactly your frame of
reference. Do you have a PhD? or PhD-ABD? MS? MA? BS/BA?

Jim




Andrew Sarangan
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

Many decades ago, a doctorate
-degree meant that you spent a great deal of time thinking about critical
-issues and fundamentally new ideas. That is no longer true. A doctorate
-means you took several courses and completed a project.


Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

Yes, I have a PhD (in EE), and I am actively involved in graduate education
& research at the MS and PhD levels.



Jim Weir wrote in
:

Andrew...

I'm not trying to start a flame war, just seeing exactly your frame of
reference. Do you have a PhD? or PhD-ABD? MS? MA? BS/BA?

Jim




Andrew Sarangan
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

Many decades ago, a doctorate
-degree meant that you spent a great deal of time thinking about
critical -issues and fundamentally new ideas. That is no longer true.
A doctorate -means you took several courses and completed a project.


Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com



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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:nQhid.53372$R05.50592@attbi_s53...
To live in a country where, by design, our leaders come and go,
instead of sticking around and really doing damage. What a privilege
eh? I'll bet there are millions of people around the world who would
literally give their left arm to take my place, or anybody's place in
this group.

Well put, Bob!

We do, indeed, live in wondrous times, and in a wonderful country.

here here. or is that hear hear?

Bryan