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Blanche Cohen wrote:
Another approach is to have your physician write you an RX then take it to either a medical supply house or ambulance company, which ever will take the RX. Only if you really want to see hassles of price and paperwork. The local medical oxygen place for us IS also the welding and ABO outlet. |
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Almarz wrote:
That's all "Cover Your Ass" stuff that if not interpreted well enough will tend to cost you more money. Why not check the numbers on the modern gasses. You may find something interesting, and remember that you're filling portable bottles, not system bottles. When was the last time it was freezing inside your cabin? Not to mention that welding tanks are used outdoors in all sorts of weather. If it survives winter in Alaska, it'll survive on the plane. |
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Almarz wrote:
That's all "Cover Your Ass" stuff that if not interpreted well enough will tend to cost you more money. Why not check the numbers on the modern gasses. You may find something interesting, and remember that you're filling portable bottles, not system bottles. When was the last time it was freezing inside your cabin? Freezing inside the cabin? Today. Right now. As for the CYA -- the OP was asking about the regs. I cited the regs. On the other hand, I did find something interesting in the avweb article that I either had forgotten or never knew -- about the hydrostatic testing of the tanks at periodic intervals...Guess I need to deal with it next year.... |
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Almarz wrote:
[...] modern gasses. You may find something interesting, and remember that you're filling portable bottles, not system bottles. When was the last time it was freezing inside your cabin? Careful about that one. As any gas is released from the tank it expands and will cool down significantly. That's why you get frost on e.g. propane tanks. And there have been fatality diving accidents when regulators froze in above-freezing temperatures because of the expanding gas. jue |
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Advisory Circulars aren't regulations.
I cited the regs. |
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Which regulation requires this? Matt Probably not a regulation, but virtually all my maintenance experience has been with larger corporate-type jets. You are certainly required to follow the manufacturer's recommended maintenance program if that is your election or an FAA- approved program of your design. In other words, as a 91 operator you select your program under 91.409(f)(3) or (4). All maintenance manuals I've been involved with specify only ABO. A Part 121, 125, or 135 program will drive it for those operators. I can guarantee the NTSB did a hard look at the bottles of the charter operator that was carrying Payne Stewart. Did it cause his accident? Probably not. As a side note - it's not only the source of the oxygen, but how its stored. I've seen in-service welding bottles full of rust that got that way from being stored flat with the valve open. I'm sure if you went directly to a good supplier, what you get would be clean. I will confess I've done a bit of mountain flying in gliders and the local carborundum mine supplied us with all our oxygen. We all lived. Would I suggest it to others as a licensed mechanic? No way - I wouldn't know what to say on the witness stand. Another side note. Just because someone posts something on a web site of bulletin board doesn't make it law - that includes me. We each have to make ourselves aware of all information that applies to what we are doing. Any of us are free to take chances with our own lives, but we can't do the same with those of our passengers. I would suggest a pilot is probably not the best source of good maintenance information even though our egos make us think we are all experts. There are many reasons why the safety record of small aircraft is so bad compared to others. (Your insurance man knows) The person making the maintenance decisions is one of them. Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Blanche wrote:
Almarz wrote: That's all "Cover Your Ass" stuff that if not interpreted well enough will tend to cost you more money. Why not check the numbers on the modern gasses. You may find something interesting, and remember that you're filling portable bottles, not system bottles. When was the last time it was freezing inside your cabin? Freezing inside the cabin? Today. Right now. As for the CYA -- the OP was asking about the regs. I cited the regs. I thought you cited Advisory Circulars. They aren't regulations. Matt |
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"Ron Natalie" wrote in message m... Blanche Cohen wrote: Another approach is to have your physician write you an RX then take it to either a medical supply house or ambulance company, which ever will take the RX. Only if you really want to see hassles of price and paperwork. The local medical oxygen place for us IS also the welding and ABO outlet. Considering the process for making it (O) is the same, why would the manufacturers establish different facilities for something that is 100% the same product? -- Matt --------------------- Matthew W. Barrow Site-Fill Homes, LLC. Montrose, CO |
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