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Matt Whiting wrote in news:ZA_mf.4154$lb.326571
@news1.epix.net: Snipola I'll make landings like that from time to time when alone, but I'll never carry passengers into a situation where there is no margin for error. Which is scary, considering in this accident the only fatality wasn't even in the plane. Brian -- http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html Quake "predictions": http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes? Like censorship and not getting support help? Switch to Supernews! They won't even answer questions through your ISP! |
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Skywise wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote in news:ZA_mf.4154$lb.326571 @news1.epix.net: Snipola I'll make landings like that from time to time when alone, but I'll never carry passengers into a situation where there is no margin for error. Which is scary, considering in this accident the only fatality wasn't even in the plane. Yes, they were truly fortunate that this wasn't much worse. Had they hit a large truck, or something more solid, the damage to the airplane, crew and pax could have been substantial. Fortunately, that didn't happen. Matt |
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"Jim Macklin" wrote in message news:mSYmf.22835$QW2.21920@dukeread08... Amateur is the correct spelling. You can't really expect to get away with this. ALL critics of spelling or typo's MUST have a spelling or typo containded in the post. It *is* a rule. Please remember this, in the future. bfg -- Jim in NC |
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I make mistakes, usually because my fingers are bigger than
the keys, I'm always getting the Y when I want the T and I sometimes get the 3 and e together. But I went to school years ago and learned how to write, read and do basic math before computers. My wife has a Masters' in English and that makes me aware of those words that get people in trouble, such as... site, cite, sight; they're there, their; prostate and prostrate; I do use the spell-check in Outlook Express, it catches typos mostly, sometimes I just can't remember how to spell some words. But I just could not resist the correction for the fellow who was chastising me for stating my opinion, based on my experience and what I would teach a student, about being cautious. But mistakes happen, see the picture at http://boortz.com/nuze/index.html for Friday the 9th, check the archive. -- James H. Macklin ATP,CFI,A&P -- The people think the Constitution protects their rights; But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome. some support http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm "Morgans" wrote in message ... | | "Jim Macklin" wrote in message | news:mSYmf.22835$QW2.21920@dukeread08... | Amateur is the correct spelling. | | You can't really expect to get away with this. ALL critics of spelling or | typo's MUST have a spelling or typo containded in the post. | | It *is* a rule. Please remember this, in the future. bfg | -- | Jim in NC | |
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Matt Whiting wrote:
Yes, they were truly fortunate that this wasn't much worse. Had they hit a large truck*, or something more solid, the damage to the airplane, crew and pax could have been substantial. *...e.g., a gasoline tanker. Could have been extremely ugly. Touchdown at 152 (reported in local newspapers as "mph"), off the end at 46 (mph?), touchdown to impact with blast barrier: 32 seconds. Jack |
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I need more evidence than some Monday night wannabe quarterback making a
WAG. Could be a multitude of mechanical, electrical, electronic or other problems that caused the accident. Time will tell. This is all speculation, that is all true. Something that bugs me is that the ILS for 31C requires RVR of 4000 or 3/4 of mile visibility. The METAR from just before the accident pegged visibility at 1/2 mile. Seems to me that the approach shouldn't have even started. Charles Oppermann www.coppersoftware.com |
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Charles wrote:
I need more evidence than some Monday night wannabe quarterback making a WAG. Could be a multitude of mechanical, electrical, electronic or other problems that caused the accident. Time will tell. This is all speculation, that is all true. Something that bugs me is that the ILS for 31C requires RVR of 4000 or 3/4 of mile visibility. The METAR from just before the accident pegged visibility at 1/2 mile. Seems to me that the approach shouldn't have even started. On the face of it yes, but you're ignoring all the other potential sources of *updated* weather info. Hilton |
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Charles Oppermann wrote:
Something that bugs me is that the ILS for 31C requires RVR of 4000 or 3/4 of mile visibility. The METAR from just before the accident pegged visibility at 1/2 mile. Seems to me that the approach shouldn't have even started. Possibly. However, the RVR report is not the same as prevailing visibility reported in the METAR. It's not unusual for the two to be quite different when there is a reduced visibility condition on or near the airport. Jack |
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"Jack" wrote in message
. net... Charles Oppermann wrote: Something that bugs me is that the ILS for 31C requires RVR of 4000 or 3/4 of mile visibility. The METAR from just before the accident pegged visibility at 1/2 mile. Seems to me that the approach shouldn't have even started. Possibly. However, the RVR report is not the same as prevailing visibility reported in the METAR. It's not unusual for the two to be quite different when there is a reduced visibility condition on or near the airport. And, particularly with snow ands fog, the view from the cockpit doesn't match either. They're a very good wakeup call. But the are often irrelevant on final. moo |
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In article , Charles Oppermann
wrote: This is all speculation, that is all true. Something that bugs me is that the ILS for 31C requires RVR of 4000 or 3/4 of mile visibility. The METAR from just before the accident pegged visibility at 1/2 mile. Seems to me that the approach shouldn't have even started. Well, for starters, prevailing visibility and a specific runway's RVR can often differ by quite a bit. That's why RVR is controlling for an airliner. It also changes minute by minute, and the hourly ATIS isn't at all a good indicator of what the RVR was when that airplane landed. Second, Southwest's 737-700 airplanes have a heads-up display that lets them use 3000 RVR on that runway at MDW. |
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