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Bad fuel gauges?
On 2008-02-24, Andy Hawkins wrote:
And if you've left the fuel cap off in your pre flight, and your fuel has gradually been ****ing all over the wing, how will you know? By the blue streaks back from the cap along the top of the wing? Yeah, this kinda leaves 172 drivers out in the cold... -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net http://www.hercules-390.org (Yes, that's me!) Buy Hercules stuff at http://www.cafepress.com/hercules-390 |
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Bad fuel gauges?
On Feb 23, 10:19*pm, Jay Maynard
wrote: On 2008-02-24, wrote: Pot, kettle, black. Not once in this discussion have you shown the slightest interest in dealing with the reality of the large number of aircraft in the GA fleet having gauges that are unusable in flight beyond "they'r all illegal!". No, I haven't just proclaimed that. Rather, I've explained in detail why I think the gauges ARE useful, in a particular way, if they're anything like the dozens of planes I've rented in various places. And I've explained in detail why I think they're illegal otherwise, citing specific regulations. (There may or may not be a "reality" that illegal planes are common--but that doesn't change whether they're illegal.) And CJ and I and others have given reasons that fuel gauges are desirable for safety as well as legality. You may disagree with the reasons we've put forth, and that's fine. But we have in fact been explaining ourselves, and responding constructively and politely to opposing explanations. |
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Andy Hawkins wrote: And if you've left the fuel cap off in your pre flight, and your fuel has gradually been ****ing all over the wing, how will you know? In a low wing Piper, you look over and see the fuel flowing out of the hole. You don't need a gauge to detect that hazard. (Perhaps this is another advantage of flying a cherokee) -- Bob Noel (goodness, please trim replies!!!) |
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On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 07:18:25 -0500, Bob Noel
wrote: In article , Andy Hawkins wrote: And if you've left the fuel cap off in your pre flight, and your fuel has gradually been ****ing all over the wing, how will you know? In a low wing Piper, you look over and see the fuel flowing out of the hole. You don't need a gauge to detect that hazard. (Perhaps this is another advantage of flying a cherokee) And at night? |
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-- "Peter Clark" wrote in message news On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 07:18:25 -0500, Bob Noel wrote: In article , Andy Hawkins wrote: And if you've left the fuel cap off in your pre flight, and your fuel has gradually been ****ing all over the wing, how will you know? In a low wing Piper, you look over and see the fuel flowing out of the hole. You don't need a gauge to detect that hazard. (Perhaps this is another advantage of flying a cherokee) And at night? Your 2 D-cell or equivalent flashlight? -- *H. Allen Smith* WACO - We are all here, because we are not all there. |
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Bad fuel gauges?
On 2008-02-23 16:03:52 -0800, "Bob Gardner" said:
Look at the Pilot's Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge, too. FUEL GAUGES The fuel quantity gauges indicate the amount of fuel measured by a sensing unit in each fuel tank and is displayed in gallons or pounds. Aircraft certification rules only require accuracy in fuel gauges when they read "empty." Any reading other than "empty" should be verified. Do not depend solely on the accuracy of the fuel quantity gauges. Always visually check the fuel level in each tank during the preflight inspection, and then compare it with the corresponding fuel quantity indication. Bob Gardner So that is where people keep coming up with that stupid myth! This is a serious error in the Pilot's Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge. -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor |
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Bad fuel gauges?
On 2008-02-23 18:41:51 -0800, "RST Engineering" said:
If an airplane does not have accurate fuel gauges then it is not airworthy. Knowingly climbing into an aircraft that you know has inaccurate fuel gauges is both dangerous and illegal. That is why you check them during preflight. From FAR 91.205: Horse****. (a) General. Except as provided in paragraphs (c)(3) and (e) of this section, no person may operate a powered civil aircraft with a standard category U.S. airworthiness certificate ... (9) Fuel gauge indicating the quantity of fuel in each tank. To what precision and accuracy and where defined? More than half but less than full? More than empty but less than a gallon? More than ten gallons and less than 11? Cite accuracy regs, please. Jim I have had this issue come up in a ramp check. The inspector insisted that the plane was not airworthy because the gauges read half full and the tanks were full. If there is a regulation specifying the tolerances for accuracy, I am unaware of it. However, the regulations do specify that you must have fuel gauges indicating the quantity of fuel in each tank and that the gauges must be calibrated so that "0" means 0 usable fuel. I guess it depends on how far you think you can get away with it if you are ramp checked. -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor |
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