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Harry K wrote: wrote: He misses the ME-109 because the recoil of firing the bullet accelerates the B-17 just a bit, so that the bullet, travelling at a little less than the bomber's speed actually briefly follows the bomber as it falls. A related question: Haven't there been cases of supersonic fighters shooting themselves down when they caught up to the shells they'd fired forward? Dan I was hoping someone would answer that. I recall seeing/hearing/reading somewhat the same thing back when. Best I can recall it involved an F-86 or equivalent (not supersonic) and happened by firing and then going into a dive thus flying into the bullet stream. Are 50 cal bullets supersonic? If so, the plane would also have to be. I don't know the muzzle velocity of 50 caliber ammo but even it is supersonic, it is balistic whereas the plane is powered so it could (maybe) dive and catch the bullets as they slowed. -- FF |
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RST Engineering wrote: Several people, most of whom have at least had physics, and at least one with a degree in physics have stated that you are wrong and why. Suggest you read the thread before you post. ... "BRO" wrote in message ... With the correct lead the bullet and the ME-109 colide, at which point the tragectory of the bullet is drasticaly altered such that it, and teh ME-109 all fall/fly to earth as one mass. No. With the _correct_ lead he can hit. The _correct_ lead is different from how he would lead if he was firing from a fixed position. The _correct_ lead is incompatible with firing when the ME-109 is directly behind the B-17. He cannot correctly lead the Me-109 AND fire when the Me-109 is directly behind the B-17. But he CAN correctly lead AND fire straight back. In fact, he correct lead if the ME is at a range of 50 yards, when the B17 crosses the flight path of the ME-109, is to fire straight back. Then he will hit when the Me-109 is fifty yards behind the B-17. The problem is not with what he said, but with what he did not say. He didn't say what part of the original problem he was changing in order to introduce his new condiditon, _correctly_ leading he Me-109. Maybe he didn't realize there was an incompatibility, or mybe he thought it would be obvious which statement he was dropping. Which just serves to demonstrate the conventional wisdom about assumptions. -- FF |
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All 'a dem Fokkers wuz Messerschmits!
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