Time to medical help

Ron Rosenfeld wrote:

My understanding is that the kit (the one with the restricted stuff in it)
is for use only by medical professionals. At least that's what I've read
in medical literature.
Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

It's been a long time since I was PIC in 121 (but nut as long as Manicax.)

When they started putting that stuff in the kit we were told that the
restricted part of the kit could only be opened by an MD or DO. So, if
there wasn't one of those two on board, no use allowed.

"Sam Spade" wrote in message
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Ron Rosenfeld wrote:
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When they started putting that stuff in the kit we were told that the
restricted part of the kit could only be opened by an MD or DO. So, if
there wasn't one of those two on board, no use allowed.
It sounds like a Monty Python skit. I start gasping and explain that my
throat is closing up because I at some shrimp for lunch. They say there is
no MD on board so nobody can administer the Epi-pen. "I'll do it myself.
Please pass the pen!" Sorry, you're not a doctor. We can't do that.
But I'm dying! That is too bad, maybe we can give you a discount coupon for
the inconvenience. We look forward to serving you in the future.

Stubby wrote:
"Sam Spade" wrote in message
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Ron Rosenfeld wrote:
...
When they started putting that stuff in the kit we were told that the
restricted part of the kit could only be opened by an MD or DO. So, if
there wasn't one of those two on board, no use allowed.

It sounds like a Monty Python skit. I start gasping and explain that my
throat is closing up because I at some shrimp for lunch. They say there is
no MD on board so nobody can administer the Epi-pen. "I'll do it myself.
Please pass the pen!" Sorry, you're not a doctor. We can't do that.
But I'm dying! That is too bad, maybe we can give you a discount coupon for
the inconvenience. We look forward to serving you in the future.


Whatever.

Why would you travel without a medication for a known life-threatening
condition?

It isn't exactly an unexpected heart attack.

Stubby writes:

It sounds like a Monty Python skit. I start gasping and explain that my
throat is closing up because I at some shrimp for lunch. They say there is
no MD on board so nobody can administer the Epi-pen. "I'll do it myself.
Please pass the pen!" Sorry, you're not a doctor. We can't do that.
But I'm dying! That is too bad, maybe we can give you a discount coupon for
the inconvenience. We look forward to serving you in the future.

Obtain a prescription from a doctor and carry an Epipen of your own. It would
be irresponsible not to if you know you are subject to this type of reaction.

Mxsmanic wrote:
Mike writes:

Several years back I was on a flight from Atlanta to Orlando on a B-757.
About halfway there we were at 31000 ft. and I heard one flight
attendant tell another "We're got to get this stuff (referring to
service items)picked up NOW!" About that time the spoilers popped up,
and we nosed down. There had been smoke in the passenger cabin, with
somewhat of a electrical insulation odor and we were heading to
Jacksonville as fas as we could get on the ground. As I recall, we were
on the ground and at the gate in less than 15 minutes from the first
indications of an 'event'. (The problem turned out to be a minor short
in the crew computer.)

An emergency affecting the entire flight is different from an emergency
affecting a single passenger.
Perhaps.. Perhaps not.
The OP asked how quickly the aircraft could reach medical help on the
ground. I believe my experience addressed that question. It is up to
the PIC to determine the extent of the emergency. I suspect that if the
PIC of a commercial flight believed that the life of a single passenger
was in danger unless medical help was obtained soon, the resulting
"flight profile" would be very similar to what I experienced. All the
PIC has to do is declare an emergency.
Mike ( a "real pilot")

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Viperdoc wrote:
Let's all remember that Anthony is not a physician, let alone a pilot, and
he has no training in either area.

Why engage him in these useless debates that he knows nothing about?



I guess to feed this ****ing hopeless troll.

Mike writes:

Perhaps.. Perhaps not.
The OP asked how quickly the aircraft could reach medical help on the
ground. I believe my experience addressed that question. It is up to
the PIC to determine the extent of the emergency. I suspect that if the
PIC of a commercial flight believed that the life of a single passenger
was in danger unless medical help was obtained soon, the resulting
"flight profile" would be very similar to what I experienced. All the
PIC has to do is declare an emergency.

Declaring an emergency won't get you down much faster, and things like
anaphylactic shock or cardiac arrest require immediate treatment, not
treatment after a half-hour ride to the airport and taxi to the gate.
Additionally, endangering other passengers for the sake of a single passenger
is a bit Hollywood as well.

Because it wasn't in a plastic bag and was confiscated by TSA...???





On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:33:14 -0800, Sam Spade
wrote:

Stubby wrote:
"Sam Spade" wrote in message
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Ron Rosenfeld wrote:
...
When they started putting that stuff in the kit we were told that the
restricted part of the kit could only be opened by an MD or DO. So, if
there wasn't one of those two on board, no use allowed.

It sounds like a Monty Python skit. I start gasping and explain that my
throat is closing up because I at some shrimp for lunch. They say there is
no MD on board so nobody can administer the Epi-pen. "I'll do it myself.
Please pass the pen!" Sorry, you're not a doctor. We can't do that.
But I'm dying! That is too bad, maybe we can give you a discount coupon for
the inconvenience. We look forward to serving you in the future.


Whatever.

Why would you travel without a medication for a known life-threatening
condition?

It isn't exactly an unexpected heart attack.

Les Izmore wrote:
Because it wasn't in a plastic bag and was confiscated by TSA...???

They don't confiscate pills, prescription or not. I travel all the time
with one of thos "granny" seven day pill dispensers and another large
container of non-prescription and prescription drugs in my brief case.
Nothing is ever saidl I think labeled precriptions become important
only when travelling internationally.

In the immortal words of Senator Beauregard Claghorn, "That was a a
joke, , I say, that was a joke, son...."


On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 02:46:20 -0800, Sam Spade
wrote:

Les Izmore wrote:
Because it wasn't in a plastic bag and was confiscated by TSA...???

They don't confiscate pills, prescription or not. I travel all the time
with one of thos "granny" seven day pill dispensers and another large
container of non-prescription and prescription drugs in my brief case.
Nothing is ever saidl I think labeled precriptions become important
only when travelling internationally.