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Old May 7th 06, 05:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jump areas are supposed to be approved, but hey, a lot of
jumpers break into buildings, climb bridges and otherwise
break the law.


Yes, and it would be a damn shame if that brazen lawlessness
of the sky skum would happen to rub off on the otherwise
saintly, god-like pilots who claim as much right to airport access
as the skydivers.

FWIW -- people who jump from fixed objects are base-jumpers.
They are facing their own struggle for access to sites that are
suitable for their lawful chosen sport.
Skydivers jump from aircraft.

Just like the general population there are people who follow
the law and there are lawbreakers. -- Oh!... except for pilots!


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Old May 7th 06, 05:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Consider a skydiver descending at 30 ft/sec mph on a vertical collision
course with a 150 mph airplane. The skydiver will appear to the pilot
only 8 degrees above the horizon, which should be in a normal pilot's
scan.

All bets are off for free-fall skydivers though.

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Old May 7th 06, 05:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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FWIW
This looks like a DH Chipmunk as used a while back
by University Air Squadrons in the UK and quite
possibly before that as RAF initial trainers but I am not sure.
Marking certainly look right for UAS machine but
I think that some still flying in civilian use are still painted
to look the part.

Pilot must have got a shock too.
Little black blob travelling straight down at 150mph turns
suddenly into floating thing very close by. Maybe though
the 'chutist was behind the pilot when the 'chute
opened?

The aeroplane is in the shot for about 4 secs before the
close encounter.

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Old May 16th 06, 02:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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by "muff528" May 7, 2006 at 04:08 PM




Yes, and it would be a damn shame if that brazen lawlessness
of the sky skum would happen to rub off on the otherwise
saintly, god-like pilots who claim as much right to airport access
as the skydivers.

FWIW -- people who jump from fixed objects are base-jumpers.
They are facing their own struggle for access to sites that are
suitable for their lawful chosen sport.
Skydivers jump from aircraft.

Just like the general population there are people who follow
the law and there are lawbreakers. -- Oh!... except for pilots!


Welcome to the world where pilots' "rights" take precedence over all else.
Besides having their hands in all the taxpayer's wallets, they will
destroy residential neighborhoods (most recent example is the decimation
of hundreds of trees in Westerly RI) for increase air safety. The hell
with the neighbors -- they are unimportant and will have to deal with the
consequences -- increase noise and ugliness. Skydivers are just another
nuisance that GA must eliminate. You see, the pilots believe they, and
they alone, have a "right" to free skies. Everyone else must pay to
support this right, and cannot complain about pollution, noise,
destructive land use, runway expansions, etc.

The good news is that they are paying more for AVgas, insurance,
maintenance, etc. When the federal grants are reduced after 2007, they
will begin paying ALOT more.





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Old May 8th 06, 09:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jim Macklin wrote:
Sky divers are supposed to notify ATC and there are NOTAMS.
Not everybody really knows or follows the rules.

Jump areas are supposed to be approved, but hey, a lot of
jumpers break into buildings, climb bridges and otherwise
break the law.




Yep. NOTAM at Waller CC, Waller County Texas, watched a 172 go
lumbering right through a crowd of folks under canopy in beautiful VFR
conditions at 5000' right over the field. I was under canopy there too.
Interesting sight. I always wondered if the pilot (1) was aware of
the NOTAM (2) didn't hear the "jumpers away" call (3) was amazed to see
all these big birds around him (4) had to change his shorts upon landing.

Richard
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Old May 9th 06, 03:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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I believe that it's perfectly legal to fly NORDO. Tough to hear "Jumpers
Away" under those circumstances. Of course, if I'm NORDO, I'm going to be
very watchful, particularly near an airport.

--
Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways)


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Jim Macklin wrote:
Sky divers are supposed to notify ATC and there are NOTAMS. Not everybody
really knows or follows the rules.

Jump areas are supposed to be approved, but hey, a lot of jumpers break
into buildings, climb bridges and otherwise break the law.




Yep. NOTAM at Waller CC, Waller County Texas, watched a 172 go lumbering
right through a crowd of folks under canopy in beautiful VFR conditions at
5000' right over the field. I was under canopy there too. Interesting
sight. I always wondered if the pilot (1) was aware of the NOTAM (2)
didn't hear the "jumpers away" call (3) was amazed to see all these big
birds around him (4) had to change his shorts upon landing.

Richard



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Old May 14th 06, 05:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Flyingmonk wrote:
http://www.nothingtoxic.com/media/11...by_an_Airplane

Guy almost hit by airplane while skydiving.

The Monk

No, airplane almost hit by meat bomb.
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Old May 15th 06, 02:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Ron Natalie wrote:
Flyingmonk wrote:
http://www.nothingtoxic.com/media/11...by_an_Airplane

Guy almost hit by airplane while skydiving.

The Monk

No, airplane almost hit by meat bomb.


LOL, I suppose you can look at it that way too.

The Monk

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Old May 15th 06, 02:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Ron Natalie" wrote

No, airplane almost hit by meat bomb.


I was thinking the same thing.

Funny, how the "faster, larger" moving thing is always at blame for hitting
the "slower, smaller" thing. Like, in pedestrian vs. car accidents.

It is always put in the news as, "Pedestrian is struck by car."

Many times, it is the pedestrian that steps into the side of, or into the
path of the car.

Anyway, they are both lucky, it ended as a near miss.
--
Jim in NC


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Old May 15th 06, 12:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Morgans wrote:

Many times, it is the pedestrian that steps into the side of the car.


This happened to my wife, with the pedestrian shearing off the mirror
and denting the rear door.

The PD did not fault or ticket my wife.
 




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