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The whole thing seems incredibly dangerous to me. What if they start pulling
out their weapons and making threatening movements during the flight? A pilot might kill them first and ask questions later. |
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C J Campbell wrote:
The whole thing seems incredibly dangerous to me. What if they start pulling out their weapons and making threatening movements during the flight? A pilot might kill them first and ask questions later. Or get distracted, crash, and have NBC run a program on how GA killed two of theirs, small planes are dangerous, etc etc etc... Hilton |
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"Hilton" wrote in message link.net... C J Campbell wrote: The whole thing seems incredibly dangerous to me. What if they start pulling out their weapons and making threatening movements during the flight? A pilot might kill them first and ask questions later. Or get distracted, crash, and have NBC run a program on how GA killed two of theirs, small planes are dangerous, etc etc etc... I would destroy an airplane before letting a terrorist have it. If I crashed under such circumstances it would be deliberate. I would attempt to make sure that ATC knew what was going on and I might attempt to make the crash survivable, but those would be secondary priorities. There being no way to tell the difference between reporters acting like terrorists and terrorists claiming to be reporters, I would assume that they might say anything or produce any kind of supposed documentation if their lives were threatened. Kill them first, I say, and let NBC explain things later if turns out their guys were real. Just like an NBC reporter to bring a Leatherman to a gunfight. :-) Honestly, though, it bothers me that so many pilots seem to think that a moment's distraction is enough to cause you to lose control of an airplane. What kind of pilot skill is that? |
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message news "Hilton" wrote in message link.net... C J Campbell wrote: The whole thing seems incredibly dangerous to me. What if they start pulling out their weapons and making threatening movements during the flight? A pilot might kill them first and ask questions later. Or get distracted, crash, and have NBC run a program on how GA killed two of theirs, small planes are dangerous, etc etc etc... I would destroy an airplane before letting a terrorist have it. If I crashed under such circumstances it would be deliberate. I would attempt to make sure that ATC knew what was going on and I might attempt to make the crash survivable, but those would be secondary priorities. There being no way to tell the difference between reporters acting like terrorists and terrorists claiming to be reporters, I would assume that they might say anything or produce any kind of supposed documentation if their lives were threatened. Kill them first, I say, and let NBC explain things later if turns out their guys were real. I would say a reporter ACTING like a terrorist IS a terrorist and should be dealt with accordingly. At some point it is to late to say "Uh, just kidding". Allen |
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I don't know what they are teaching these news reporters in college
now days, but I suspect that all programs follow the same, dull agenda. The recipe is as follows.... 1) Find a hot/controversial topic in the public eye. 2) Send the most clueless reporter out into the field to "stir the pot" 3) If the story does not go your way (or the way you expect), skew the interview till it does. 4) At the end of the report, state that "News channel XXX ‘on your side' will continue to cover this story for the good of the community" About 20 years ago when the Delta airline plane crashed due to windshier in DFW, I worked at our local airport cleaning planes at night. This particular night we noticed a news truck at the local FBO and went over to see what was happening. Well, the only person at night at the FBO was the local redneck that sold fuel. This guy dropped out of the 8th grade and only had a few teeth in his mouth (hence why he worked night shift). Well, the local news channel sent a young reporter out to "get the scoop" and this guy was the only one they found. The live news report went something like this… Reporter: So, we are talking to Daryl. He's a pilot for Corporate Air. Daryl, in your opinion what happened this evening at DFW? Daryl: Well, I've been watching the same news coverage you have and I've been praying for the people on that aircraft. Reporter: In your career, have you ever encountered similar weather conditions that existed at the time of landing at DFW? Daryl: No, I've never been that far away from here. However I have seen a few storms that would not be good to fly through. Reporter: So weather is likely the cause of this crash? Daryl: Well, the FAA has some good people and I'm sure they will find out what happened. I was amazed at how obvious it was that Daryl had NO idea what happened and clearly he is NOT a pilot. Afterwards I talked to Daryl and he said that they showed up at the airport about 15 minutes before the local news went on the air and was asking to speak with a Pilot. He told them no one was around and he was only the "night watchmen" and was NOT a pilot. However they were going to make him a pilot anyway since they did not have enough time to look elsewhere. You might also notice that all news reporters follow the same patterns. Christmas – Go out to the local mall and interview shoppers and ask them how crowded it is in the parking lot. Also, go to the airport and show people standing in line at the ticket counter. Laugh a lot and say Merry Christmas. Thanksgiving – Interview a family sitting down to dinner and talk about how much your going to eat. Show people feeding the homeless. Laugh a lot. The first snowfall of the year – Go to the local hardware store and interview people buying snow shovels and salt. Or, go to the grocery store and ask people what they are buying. Talk about spring. Tell people to drive no faster than a walking pace. Laugh and throw a snow ball at camera man. Big rain storm – Go stand in a puddle near the road and give the road conditions. Be sure to remind people to slow down to a crawl (also good to do during a snowfall). Talk about sunny days. Drought – Show people watering their lawns. Talk about rain. Laugh. First warm day of spring – Go to the park and show people walking their dogs. Talk about winter. Laugh. First day of school – Show kids waiting at the bus stop. The day before, show same kids shopping for school supplies. Talk about summer vacation. Airline crash – Go talk to people on the street about their fears of flying. Show an aircraft landing or taking off at the local airport. If small aircraft had an engine failure, be sure to use the phrase "the engine quit and the plane fell out of the sky". Look somber. Jezzz, I'm starting to sound like Andy Rooney. Corky Scott wrote in message . .. "Earlier today two Middle Eastern men attempted to penetrate our security. They telephoned one of my helicopter FBOs and asked about a charter flight. After discussion of price and directions to the business, they arrived an hour later. When the office agent asked how they were going to pay for the flight they produced cash. When asked for ID, they produced driver's licenses from two different states and they were driving a car licensed in a third state. Things didn't smell right so the mechanic took them into the hangar to see the aircraft while the office person called the FBI and local police. The helicopter they were going to fly was blocked in by other aircraft so the mechanic was able to stall them by having to slowly shuffle the blocking planes. Meanwhile the two men got their backpacks and odd-shaped luggage out of their car. Soon the local police arrived and they were hauled off to jail in handcuffs. After a little time behind bars, the FBI verified that the two men were employed by NBC New York and were on assignment to get a story of how easy it is to charter a helicopter for a terrorist attack. The men had stayed in a local hotel and purchased box cutters, leather-man knives, and other potential weapons at the local Wal-Mart using a credit card. The box cutters had been hidden in the lining at the bottom of the back packs and the other weapons were hidden throughout their baggage. They had audiotaped the telephone conversation with Arlene and were going to use it as part of a national news story about how easy it is to get information and directions to the location of the helicopter and then hijack it to commit a terrorist attack. I doubt they will be back at our airport soon and this is a story that will never be seen since they were caught. A very "well-done" to my FBO and staff and the local FBI and police response forces. We have since learned that we were the first airport where this had been attempted and NBC planned to attempt similar penetration stories around the country. Please help me spread the word to other airports." |
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"Jenna" wrote in message ... There are numerous statues concerning wiretaps. Generally, for federal purposes, if one party of the conversation (e.g. the caller) has given consent, recording is ok. This is true. It's very relevant to the Scott Peterson trial; in court and on the news they've been playing tapped telephone conversations recorded for the police by his mistress without his consent. The way I learned it in journalism school, as long as one party consents the line can be tapped. -c |
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If small aircraft had an engine failure, be sure to use the phrase
"the engine quit and the plane fell out of the sky". Look somber. No, no, no . . . "The engine STALLED and the plane fell out of the sky" Sheesh! G www.Rosspilot.com |
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 16:07:33 -0400, "Marco Leon"
mleon(at)optonline.net wrote: Any legal beagles out there care to comment on if these guys can be prosecuted for anything even though they were hired by NBC? This stuff really ****es me off--escpecially since we KNOW NBC won't air a story about how WELL this FBO did in averting an apparent terrorist strike. Marco So, call up Fox, CBS and ABC and give them all the dirt on how their rival channel screwed up. You think they wouldn't take the chance to bash NBC? Eric Pinnell (Author, "Steel Rain", "Claws of The Dragon", "The Omega File") For a preview, see: http://www.ericpinnell.com/books/previews.shtml |
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On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 07:40:48 -0700, "C J Campbell"
wrote: I would destroy an airplane before letting a terrorist have it. If I crashed under such circumstances it would be deliberate. I would attempt to make sure that ATC knew what was going on and I might attempt to make the crash survivable, but those would be secondary priorities. There being no way to tell the difference between reporters acting like terrorists and terrorists claiming to be reporters, I would assume that they might say anything or produce any kind of supposed documentation if their lives were threatened. Kill them first, I say, and let NBC explain things later if turns out their guys were real. Just like an NBC reporter to bring a Leatherman to a gunfight. :-) Honestly, though, it bothers me that so many pilots seem to think that a moment's distraction is enough to cause you to lose control of an airplane. What kind of pilot skill is that? WTF is a terrorist going to do with a GA plane? If they were to seize it, they'd have to land it somewhere and fill it with a bomb. By then, ATC would be alerted and said plane would have a hard time going anywhere. Then again, this is an attempt to screw over GA by forcing private pilots and their passengers to go through the insane TSA security. Eric Pinnell (Author, "Steel Rain", "Claws of The Dragon", "The Omega File") For a preview, see: http://www.ericpinnell.com/books/previews.shtml |
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The engine stalled because they didn't file a flight plan!!!!
"Rosspilot" wrote in message ... If small aircraft had an engine failure, be sure to use the phrase "the engine quit and the plane fell out of the sky". Look somber. No, no, no . . . "The engine STALLED and the plane fell out of the sky" Sheesh! G www.Rosspilot.com |
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