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Washington DC airspace closing for good?
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tony roberts wrote:
Looks like it. http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsite...50803adiz.html George Patterson Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks. |
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It's incredibly stupid, but it is not, as the topic suggests, a proposal to
close DC airspace. I assume it is a proposal to make the ADIZ permanent. Michael |
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Michael 182 wrote:
It's incredibly stupid, but it is not, as the topic suggests, a proposal to close DC airspace. I assume it is a proposal to make the ADIZ permanent. Not exactly. It's a proposal to turn the ADIZ into restricted airspace. That effectively closes it to many of us. George Patterson Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks. |
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On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 03:12:06 GMT, George Patterson
wrote in aIfIe.12003$W72.2040@trndny05:: Not exactly. It's a proposal to turn the ADIZ into restricted airspace. That effectively closes it to many of us. The FAA proposal to change the DC ADIZ into Restricted airspace with a ceiling of 18,000' is likely an effort to further de-clutter it. Perhaps there are so many authorized flights using the airspace now, that it is too congested to permit effective radar tracking of primary targets. If so, perhaps a new radar installation might be more effective. One wonders how flights originating within the airspace, and congressional commuters will be handled when it becomes Restricted. |
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
... On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 03:12:06 GMT, George Patterson wrote in aIfIe.12003$W72.2040@trndny05:: Not exactly. It's a proposal to turn the ADIZ into restricted airspace. That effectively closes it to many of us. The FAA proposal to change the DC ADIZ into Restricted airspace with a ceiling of 18,000' is likely an effort to further de-clutter it. Crap. http://www.aopa.org/ Join if you already haven't. moo |
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Hm...I just read the proposed changes and I don't see that:
http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsite...4adiz-nprm.pdf Am I missing something here? What I read is that the current adiz requirements would be made permanent. Where does it deviate from that? This PDF hadn't been linked to the AOPA article last night, so I went to bed thinking my flying days were effectively over after reading your post. Now, after reading it, I think its what Michael said it is, a proposal to make the ADIZ permanent. I fly out of leesburg. The proceedures are really not that dificult or time consuming for a plane with mode C: -Call Flight service and file an ADIZ FP prior to flight. Five minutes and can be done while driving to airport. -Call CD prior to takeing off to get a code and departure freq. -Call ATC and remain in contact after leaving the pattern (no need to call if you are staying in the pattern) -BC |
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On 4 Aug 2005 06:56:26 -0700, wrote in
.com:: What I read is that the current adiz requirements would be made permanent. Where does it deviate from that? AOPA says it will be a restricted area: http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsite...50803adiz.html AOPA will oppose an FAA proposal scheduled for release tomorrow that would codify flight restrictions in the Washington, D.C., metropolitan area. The restricted area would replace the current air defense identification zone (ADIZ). It would receive a brand-new designation, "National Defense Airspace," and cover nearly 2,000 square miles around Washington, D.C., extending to an altitude of 18,000 feet. |
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On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 05:34:59 -0400, "Happy Dog"
wrote in :: "Larry Dighera" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 03:12:06 GMT, George Patterson wrote in aIfIe.12003$W72.2040@trndny05:: Not exactly. It's a proposal to turn the ADIZ into restricted airspace. That effectively closes it to many of us. The FAA proposal to change the DC ADIZ into Restricted airspace with a ceiling of 18,000' is likely an effort to further de-clutter it. Crap. Oh, no thank you. http://www.aopa.org/ Join if you already haven't. While I've been an AOPA member for decades, I completely fail to understand how that relates to your outburst. moo Oh. And here I expected to be debating with a non bovine airman. Oh well... |
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Larry Dighera wrote:
Oh, no thank you. http://www.aopa.org/ Join if you already haven't. While I've been an AOPA member for decades, I completely fail to understand how that relates to your outburst. moo Oh. And here I expected to be debating with a non bovine airman. Oh well... Stand down, Larry. He was expressing his frustration to the newsgroup at large regarding the news that this closing looks to be a reality and he making a statement to pilots in general that now more than ever pilots need to join AOPA to fight this restriction. He was not directing his comments specifically at you. -- Peter |
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