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NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...



 
 
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Old October 1st 06, 05:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...

On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 16:20:18 +0000 (UTC),
(Paul Tomblin) wrote in :

NW-Pilot, would you have gone with 55 knot tailwinds?


Why not? 55 knot headwinds cut into your fuel reserve, 55 knot tail winds
help it. I've flown with a 70 knot tail wind


Have you ever attempted to taxi a high-wing aircraft in 55 knot winds?
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Old October 1st 06, 06:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Martin Hotze[_1_]
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...

On 1 Oct 2006 08:56:37 -0700, Jay Honeck wrote:

Stuck in IMC over the North Atlantic, in the dark, no
primary displays, a possible carbon-monoxide leak, a known fuel leak --
I simply can't imagine it getting any worse.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

hmm, the mother-in-law calling on the sat-phone?

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Old October 1st 06, 07:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Paul Tomblin
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...

In a previous article, Larry Dighera said:
On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 16:20:18 +0000 (UTC),
(Paul Tomblin) wrote in :
NW-Pilot, would you have gone with 55 knot tailwinds?


Why not? 55 knot headwinds cut into your fuel reserve, 55 knot tail winds
help it. I've flown with a 70 knot tail wind


Have you ever attempted to taxi a high-wing aircraft in 55 knot winds?


I thougth we were talking about winds-aloft, not surface winds?


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Old October 1st 06, 10:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...


"Larry Dighera" wrote in message

A more experienced pilot who had studied the aux tank system may have


Do you have a machine to pick those nits, or do you do it all by hand?


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Old October 1st 06, 10:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
John Gaquin
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message

I simply can't imagine it getting any worse.


On fire?

But he did a great job, notwithstanding any Monday-morning advice givers.
He evaluated, and made a decision that resulted in the craft and pilot on
the ground safely. What else is there?


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Old October 1st 06, 10:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...

Larry Dighera schrieb:

A more experienced pilot who had studied the aux tank system may have
been able to mentally diagnose the cause of the fuel venting.


He did everything by the book, but the book was wrong. A pilot is not
supposed to assume that an FAA approved book is wrong! In fact, I'm
scared of pilots who establish their own ad hoc procedures because they
think they know better than the book.

Stefan
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Old October 1st 06, 10:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message ps.com...
: http://www.alexisparkinn.com/nwpilot's_tranatlantic_flight.htm
:
: Man, if the new details of his story doesn't chill ya, nothing will!
: --
: Jay Honeck
: Iowa City, IA
: Pathfinder N56993
: www.AlexisParkInn.com
: "Your Aviation Destination"
:

See Jay, another reason to get the instrument rating!



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Old October 1st 06, 11:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...

On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 23:20:13 +0200, Stefan
wrote in :

Larry Dighera schrieb:

A more experienced pilot who had studied the aux tank system may have
been able to mentally diagnose the cause of the fuel venting.


He did everything by the book, but the book was wrong. A pilot is not
supposed to assume that an FAA approved book is wrong! In fact, I'm
scared of pilots who establish their own ad hoc procedures because they
think they know better than the book.

Stefan


What you say is true enough. And so is what I said.

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Old October 1st 06, 11:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Eduardo K.[_1_]
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...

In article ,
..Blueskies. wrote:

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com...
: http://www.alexisparkinn.com/nwpilot's_tranatlantic_flight.htm
:
: Man, if the new details of his story doesn't chill ya, nothing will!
: --
: Jay Honeck
: Iowa City, IA
: Pathfinder N56993
: www.AlexisParkInn.com
: "Your Aviation Destination"
:

See Jay, another reason to get the instrument rating!



LOL.

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Old October 1st 06, 11:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Emily
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...

Stefan wrote:
Larry Dighera schrieb:

A more experienced pilot who had studied the aux tank system may have
been able to mentally diagnose the cause of the fuel venting.


He did everything by the book, but the book was wrong. A pilot is not
supposed to assume that an FAA approved book is wrong! In fact, I'm
scared of pilots who establish their own ad hoc procedures because they
think they know better than the book.


You're completely right. I'm an A&P, but I'm not going to sit up there
in IMC miles from land and try to diagnose a fuel problem if the other
option is heading for land and landing ASAP.
 




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