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Old February 3rd 21, 10:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I have been around this game for a bit and have made all kind of flights, straight out flights, out and return flights, and the Bloody Triangle. I must say that the most difficult of them all is the declared triangle with minimum leg distances. Without a doubt the triangle is the most challenging of all.
Yes, you can run up and down the ridge, go straight out or go out and return, all are good flights, but the big triangle is the Bloody prize. What do you think?
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Old February 4th 21, 04:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Well, the triangle is the strongest geometric shape so it should be tough!
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Old February 4th 21, 08:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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torsdag den 4. februar 2021 kl. 04.33.44 UTC+1 skrev :
Well, the triangle is the strongest geometric shape so it should be tough!


My contribution to the triangle story :-).
https://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-3....l?dsId=7737834

Best regards Mads
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Old February 4th 21, 09:20 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 11:59:35 PM UTC-8, Mads wrote:
torsdag den 4. februar 2021 kl. 04.33.44 UTC+1 skrev :
Well, the triangle is the strongest geometric shape so it should be tough!

My contribution to the triangle story :-).
https://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-3....l?dsId=7737834

Best regards Mads


While I agree a declared FAI triangle is the most challenging, the long out and return also deserves special recognition. For a given distance, the O&R requires you to fly the furthest from your final destination possible. Also a 1000km O&R will normally take you to different weather.
It feels insane to be 300 miles from home and still fly in the opposite direction...

Ramy
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Old February 4th 21, 12:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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It feels insane to be 300 miles from home and still fly in the opposite direction...

Ramy


Perhaps even more insane to do a straight out and expect your friends to come and pick you up!
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Old February 4th 21, 01:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 3:20:39 AM UTC-5, Ramy wrote:
On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 11:59:35 PM UTC-8, Mads wrote:
torsdag den 4. februar 2021 kl. 04.33.44 UTC+1 skrev :
Well, the triangle is the strongest geometric shape so it should be tough!

My contribution to the triangle story :-).
https://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-3....l?dsId=7737834

Best regards Mads

While I agree a declared FAI triangle is the most challenging, the long out and return also deserves special recognition. For a given distance, the O&R requires you to fly the furthest from your final destination possible. Also a 1000km O&R will normally take you to different weather.
It feels insane to be 300 miles from home and still fly in the opposite direction...

Ramy


I would also rate the out and return as second on the list because of distance and weather, the WX component of the triangle also adds to its level of difficulty. Wind is a big factor for both O&R and triangle, a bit more so for the triangle, IMHO. The straight out is the least difficult, kind of like strapping a chimp into a rocket and saying, "Here Ya Go Joe, Enjoy The Ride".
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Old February 4th 21, 03:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On 2/3/2021 4:45 PM, wrote:
I have been around this game for a bit and have made all kind of flights, straight out flights, out and return flights, and the Bloody Triangle. I must say that the most difficult of them all is the declared triangle with minimum leg distances. Without a doubt the triangle is the most challenging of all.
Yes, you can run up and down the ridge, go straight out or go out and return, all are good flights, but the big triangle is the Bloody prize. What do you think?


Seeing the subject line and your location I thought you were talking
about the Bermuda Triangle...

I've always thought the pre-declared triangle is the best XC challenge.
And to make it even harder, I insisted on making the start/finish
point an apex of the triangle. I.e., no "start on leg".

I did 300km that way a while back, pre-declared to myself. 22 years
later I did it again, even slower, but officially recognized. Not in
the 1000km league Ramy is in, but a good challenge with my 12.6m wings
in the Eastern US. Now I need to do it again, faster - hopefully faster
than my glider's stall speed :-)

With such a triangle you get almost as far away from home as with an
O&R, and having to venture in two different directions you are likely to
enter different weather - and to suffer a headwind on at least one leg.
All this should be considered in the planning of the task before
declaration - another challenge.

Somewhere I've seen an informal club contest scheme, can't remember what
it was called (not the currently discussed "Proving Grounds"), where
this was formalized, in that the same distance got more points if an
O&R, and even more points if an FAI triangle. The current OLC doesn't
quite do that, but does add some points to closed-course flights for the
largest enclosed FAI triangle.
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Old February 4th 21, 05:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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In defense of the Downwind Dash -

1) You tend to have to fly over much more unfamiliar terrain.
2) It's a big leap to take off and, even with a goal, have no idea where you are actually going to land. (A big thank you to Tony Condon for encouraging pilots to get over this hump.)
3) A possible multi-day retrieve is a major commitment to the flight.

Lou
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Old February 4th 21, 05:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Nice one !

Le jeudi 4 février 2021 Ã* 08:59:35 UTC+1, Mads a écritÂ*:
torsdag den 4. februar 2021 kl. 04.33.44 UTC+1 skrev :
Well, the triangle is the strongest geometric shape so it should be tough!

My contribution to the triangle story :-).
https://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-3....l?dsId=7737834

Best regards Mads

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Old February 4th 21, 05:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Just for Bob, the ASW-20 fan: https://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-3....l?dsId=5130184 (600 km declared).

Stopped a little short of 3rd declared TP (declaration was for 650km) on this one, but got free triangle state record: https://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-3....l?dsId=5911937

T8
 




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