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  #11  
Old April 19th 07, 05:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
RST Engineering
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"The Visitor" wrote in message
...
If he opens it up, isn't there some sort of qualifications he needs to
certify it and return it to service?



You just don't get it, do you? No.






RST Engineering wrote:
That's an interesting heresy and untruth. Mind telling us how you came
to believe this?

Jim



"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
oups.com...



without opening the unit (which is now illegal to do ).







  #12  
Old April 19th 07, 10:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Robert M. Gary
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On Apr 19, 7:25 am, "RST Engineering" wrote:
That's an interesting heresy and untruth. Mind telling us how you came to
believe this?

Jim

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in ooglegroups.com...



without opening the unit (which is now illegal to do ).- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I'm told you have to have an FAA approved manual for the unit to open
it. The manufactor has keep those manuals secret (like Garmin does) so
you have to send it to the factory. However, the factory will no
longer look at it. Are you saying you would be willing to open the
unit and service it for me???

-Robert

  #13  
Old April 20th 07, 05:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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RST Engineering wrote:


You just don't get it, do you? No.



Well I am not familiar with US rules.
So I was asking. You know what "asking" is, don't you?
But you should not one to shoot your mouth off, are you.

Like there are no fuel injected 172's, wasn't that you?
Wasn't that you, wrong about some other things also?

Problem being friendly?

Having read many of your posts, you shouldn't be acting the way you do.

Thank's for reading....

  #14  
Old April 20th 07, 07:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Michael Houghton
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Howdy!

In article .com,
Robert M. Gary wrote:
On Apr 19, 7:25 am, "RST Engineering" wrote:
That's an interesting heresy and untruth. Mind telling us how you came to
believe this?

Jim

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in

messagenews:1176693109.733600.114470@b75g2000hsg. googlegroups.com...



without opening the unit (which is now illegal to do ).- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I'm told you have to have an FAA approved manual for the unit to open
it. The manufactor has keep those manuals secret (like Garmin does) so
you have to send it to the factory. However, the factory will no
longer look at it. Are you saying you would be willing to open the
unit and service it for me???

You initial statement was a bald assertion that opening the unit was
*illegal* for you to do. Now you say that someone (unnamed) told you
this.

Perhaps you could examine the relevant regulations to see what rules
apply in what way.

Merely opening up the case is unlikely to be *illegal* on its face.
It might be that, having opened it up, it can't be put back into
service (as a transmitter) without the blessing of someone with the
appropriate radio credentials. It might be that any repairs that are
made have to be vetted by same credentialed repair person. It might
be an old wives' tale.

I don't know the answer, and I bet Jim does, but you haven't asked
the right question.

yours,
Michael


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  #15  
Old April 21st 07, 12:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
The Visitor
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In Canada a pilot isn't even allowed to remove and re-install a radio.
Actually not even tighten it up in it's tray, technically.
Obviously those get ignored alot but opening the case, hmmmm.
I'm sure his local(or not so local) FSDO will help him out.

John

Michael Houghton wrote:
Howdy!

In article .com,
Robert M. Gary wrote:

On Apr 19, 7:25 am, "RST Engineering" wrote:

That's an interesting heresy and untruth. Mind telling us how you came to
believe this?

Jim

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in


messagenews:1176693109.733600.114470@b75g2000hsg .googlegroups.com...



without opening the unit (which is now illegal to do ).- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I'm told you have to have an FAA approved manual for the unit to open
it. The manufactor has keep those manuals secret (like Garmin does) so
you have to send it to the factory. However, the factory will no
longer look at it. Are you saying you would be willing to open the
unit and service it for me???


You initial statement was a bald assertion that opening the unit was
*illegal* for you to do. Now you say that someone (unnamed) told you
this.

Perhaps you could examine the relevant regulations to see what rules
apply in what way.

Merely opening up the case is unlikely to be *illegal* on its face.
It might be that, having opened it up, it can't be put back into
service (as a transmitter) without the blessing of someone with the
appropriate radio credentials. It might be that any repairs that are
made have to be vetted by same credentialed repair person. It might
be an old wives' tale.

I don't know the answer, and I bet Jim does, but you haven't asked
the right question.

yours,
Michael



  #16  
Old April 21st 07, 03:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Drew Dalgleish
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On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:17:56 -0400, The Visitor
wrote:

In Canada a pilot isn't even allowed to remove and re-install a radio.
Actually not even tighten it up in it's tray, technically.
Obviously those get ignored alot but opening the case, hmmmm.
I'm sure his local(or not so local) FSDO will help him out.

John

Could you cite the appropriate CAR please. Those seem like rather
harsh rules for something that's not even required for safe flight.
Am I breaking rules when I remove my ELT and send it out for recert.
  #17  
Old April 21st 07, 05:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Robert M. Gary
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On Apr 20, 11:03 am, (Michael Houghton) wrote:
Howdy!

In article .com,
Robert M. Gary wrote:



On Apr 19, 7:25 am, "RST Engineering" wrote:
That's an interesting heresy and untruth. Mind telling us how you came to
believe this?


Jim


"Robert M. Gary" wrote in

messagenews:1176693109.733600.114470@b75g2000hsg. googlegroups.com...


without opening the unit (which is now illegal to do ).- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I'm told you have to have an FAA approved manual for the unit to open
it. The manufactor has keep those manuals secret (like Garmin does) so
you have to send it to the factory. However, the factory will no
longer look at it. Are you saying you would be willing to open the
unit and service it for me???


You initial statement was a bald assertion that opening the unit was
*illegal* for you to do. Now you say that someone (unnamed) told you
this.

Perhaps you could examine the relevant regulations to see what rules
apply in what way.

Merely opening up the case is unlikely to be *illegal* on its face.
It might be that, having opened it up, it can't be put back into
service (as a transmitter) without the blessing of someone with the
appropriate radio credentials. It might be that any repairs that are
made have to be vetted by same credentialed repair person. It might
be an old wives' tale.


This is without a doubt the stupidest reply I've ever seen on USNET.
Gee, if you ever need heart surgery I can do that for you. I can
remove your heart. Apparently you don't think its relevant that I
don't know how to put it back in. Once this unit is opened, it is a
paper weight, there is no one who is legally able to return it to
service so I'll have to live with it working intermitantly unless the
cause is external.
Gees, you'd think there would be an IQ test to use a computer.

-Robert


  #18  
Old April 21st 07, 02:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
The Visitor
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Actually I think elt removeal and re-installation is on TC's list of
pilot approved maintenance.

Drew Dalgleish wrote:

On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:17:56 -0400, The Visitor
wrote:


In Canada a pilot isn't even allowed to remove and re-install a radio.
Actually not even tighten it up in it's tray, technically.
Obviously those get ignored alot but opening the case, hmmmm.
I'm sure his local(or not so local) FSDO will help him out.

John


Could you cite the appropriate CAR please. Those seem like rather
harsh rules for something that's not even required for safe flight.
Am I breaking rules when I remove my ELT and send it out for recert.


  #19  
Old April 21st 07, 02:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
The Visitor
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Drew Dalgleish wrote:

Could you cite the appropriate CAR please.


Like you, I don't have time to wade through them. And I don't have them
memorized.

But it your concerned you can or give TC a call. Look up the list of
approved pilot maintenance; for those items you can do and make the
logbook entry. Also if you pull a radio or put one it you need to make
the appropriate logbook entry.

If you find anything post it here?

  #20  
Old April 21st 07, 03:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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Robert M. Gary wrote:

Gees, you'd think there would be an IQ test to use a computer.


A testimony to Windows and Macs.

 




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