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Old August 15th 06, 08:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
BDS[_1_]
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Default EW B-Model flight recorder

I have an old EW B model flight recorder with no manual. Is anyone familiar
with this device willing to post a quick list of the keyboard functions?

I have figured out the basics and can get it to record from my GPS - I just
want to know how to access all of the functions, or as many as someone might
be willing to spend the time typing out.

BDS


  #2  
Old August 15th 06, 10:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Cliff Hilty
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Default EW B-Model flight recorder

Obviously, you have figured out how to turn it on.
mine has a breif description of functions on the back
of the unit. But if I remember correctly. press on
off off to to turn the unit off, on and step through
the setup to set time, day, year, user #, interval
in seconds, and it starts recording. if you want to
see the battery level you press on, 3, time, this will
show a 400 to 500 battery level, if it is lower than
that it will gjive you an err code, I think it is 6,
other codes include low memory, memory out, ect. It
was originally designed to output directly to a printer
and to get it to downlaod you will need ew windows
uploader program and a serial port or adaptor only
a belkin usb to serial adaptors have proven to work.
It has limited memory and setting it at a 8 second
interval will only give you around 6-8 hours of flight
time. I set mine to 12 or 16 to make sure I get everything
on those long flights or 2 flight before downloading.
Oh yea when you first turn it on it tell you how much
memory is remaining and asks if you want to save it.
There is also a feature that I don't use that allows
you to set a higher sample rate and when you short
out two pins in the connector it goes into a 2 second
sample rate for two minutes when you get close to a
turn point for quicker turns. I never used that feature.
hope this helps.

At 19:06 15 August 2006, Bds wrote:
I have an old EW B model flight recorder with no manual.
Is anyone familiar
with this device willing to post a quick list of the
keyboard functions?

I have figured out the basics and can get it to record
from my GPS - I just
want to know how to access all of the functions, or
as many as someone might
be willing to spend the time typing out.

BDS






  #3  
Old August 15th 06, 11:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Mottley
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Default EW B-Model flight recorder


Cliff Hilty wrote:
Obviously, you have figured out how to turn it on.
mine has a breif description of functions on the back
of the unit. But if I remember correctly. press on
off off to to turn the unit off, on and step through
the setup to set time, day, year, user #, interval
in seconds, and it starts recording. if you want to
see the battery level you press on, 3, time, this will
show a 400 to 500 battery level, if it is lower than
that it will gjive you an err code, I think it is 6,
other codes include low memory, memory out, ect. It
was originally designed to output directly to a printer
and to get it to downlaod you will need ew windows
uploader program and a serial port or adaptor only
a belkin usb to serial adaptors have proven to work.
It has limited memory and setting it at a 8 second
interval will only give you around 6-8 hours of flight
time. I set mine to 12 or 16 to make sure I get everything
on those long flights or 2 flight before downloading.
Oh yea when you first turn it on it tell you how much
memory is remaining and asks if you want to save it.
There is also a feature that I don't use that allows
you to set a higher sample rate and when you short
out two pins in the connector it goes into a 2 second
sample rate for two minutes when you get close to a
turn point for quicker turns. I never used that feature.
hope this helps.

At 19:06 15 August 2006, Bds wrote:
I have an old EW B model flight recorder with no manual.
Is anyone familiar
with this device willing to post a quick list of the
keyboard functions?

I have figured out the basics and can get it to record
from my GPS - I just
want to know how to access all of the functions, or
as many as someone might
be willing to spend the time typing out.

BDS




Hi there

not a good idea to set the rate at more than 5 sec. At the recent
Russian Qualifiying Grand Prix an experienced pilot had a sample rate
of 10sec and missed his last control point and bagged himself a 5
minute penalty. He claims his logger beeped but the trace shows clearly
that he did not make a point inside the TP area which was parallel to
the track for the finish. Checking in SeeYou showed his recording
points just before and after the TP Tangent. Within these 10 seconds he
propably did fly into the Sector and out of it again.

Regards
Bruno

  #4  
Old August 16th 06, 06:35 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Pete Brown
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Default EW B-Model flight recorder

EW Baro Start Up Procedure

Press ON

"FREE" flashes and then a number indicating % of memory
remaining appears

Press ENT

"CLEr" flashes

Press NO (unless you need to clear memory for flight)

year appears. If incorrect, enter last 2 digits of year

Pres ENT

mm/dd appears. If incorrect, enter 4 digits

Pres ENT

time appears. If incorrect, enter time in hhmm 24 hrs format

Pres ENT

U (user number) appears. Enter number from 1 to 9999 to
identity pilot, aircraft, or observer. 7 is default for Pete
Brown

Pres ENT

INT (interval will momentarily appear.) Enter [10] seconds.

Pres ENT

Baro will now start flashing, recording PA( pressure
altitude) at 10 second intervals.

To Begin Calibration Process: (see page 30 of manual)

Press [ENT] [4] [ENT]

Reads in thousands of meters, i.e., .120 = 120 meters

Baro should now be placed in decompression chamber with
display facing operator and decompressed normally. Chart is
made of chamber readings and baro display reading.


To turn off

Press [ON] [OFF] [OFF]

Common Error codes

Err2 memory low but useable 3.3 hrs at 10 second sample rate
Err5 battery is low, change soon, several hours remain
Err6 device has turned off due to extremely low battery

Use 10 second sample rate for badges & records
10 seconds = 10 hours of data
30 seconds = 30 hours

Battery: PP3 alkaline 9 volt

To check battery level
Press [ON] [3] [time]
fresh battery should be ~500
replace at ~ 350
do not use below 300


I have a manunual that I could copy. Email me for details on
where to send it if you would like.

Pete Brown pdbatgcidotnet

BDS
I have an old EW B model flight recorder with no manual. Is anyone familiar
with this device willing to post a quick list of the keyboard functions?

I have figured out the basics and can get it to record from my GPS - I just
want to know how to access all of the functions, or as many as someone might
be willing to spend the time typing out.

BDS



--

Peter D. Brown
http://home.gci.net/~pdb/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/akmtnsoaring/



  #5  
Old August 17th 06, 01:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
BDS[_1_]
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Default EW B-Model flight recorder

Great - thanks for the help!

BDS

"Pete Brown" wrote in message
...
EW Baro Start Up Procedure

Press ON

"FREE" flashes and then a number indicating % of memory
remaining appears

Press ENT

"CLEr" flashes

Press NO (unless you need to clear memory for flight)

year appears. If incorrect, enter last 2 digits of year

Pres ENT

mm/dd appears. If incorrect, enter 4 digits

Pres ENT

time appears. If incorrect, enter time in hhmm 24 hrs format

Pres ENT

U (user number) appears. Enter number from 1 to 9999 to
identity pilot, aircraft, or observer. 7 is default for Pete
Brown

Pres ENT

INT (interval will momentarily appear.) Enter [10] seconds.

Pres ENT

Baro will now start flashing, recording PA( pressure
altitude) at 10 second intervals.

To Begin Calibration Process: (see page 30 of manual)

Press [ENT] [4] [ENT]

Reads in thousands of meters, i.e., .120 = 120 meters

Baro should now be placed in decompression chamber with
display facing operator and decompressed normally. Chart is
made of chamber readings and baro display reading.


To turn off

Press [ON] [OFF] [OFF]

Common Error codes

Err2 memory low but useable 3.3 hrs at 10 second sample rate
Err5 battery is low, change soon, several hours remain
Err6 device has turned off due to extremely low battery

Use 10 second sample rate for badges & records
10 seconds = 10 hours of data
30 seconds = 30 hours

Battery: PP3 alkaline 9 volt

To check battery level
Press [ON] [3] [time]
fresh battery should be ~500
replace at ~ 350
do not use below 300


I have a manunual that I could copy. Email me for details on
where to send it if you would like.

Pete Brown pdbatgcidotnet

BDS
I have an old EW B model flight recorder with no manual. Is anyone

familiar
with this device willing to post a quick list of the keyboard functions?

I have figured out the basics and can get it to record from my GPS - I

just
want to know how to access all of the functions, or as many as someone

might
be willing to spend the time typing out.

BDS



--

Peter D. Brown
http://home.gci.net/~pdb/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/akmtnsoaring/





  #6  
Old August 17th 06, 06:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dave K
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Default EW B-Model flight recorder

Mottley wrote:

Hi there

not a good idea to set the rate at more than 5 sec. At the recent
Russian Qualifiying Grand Prix an experienced pilot had a sample rate
of 10sec and missed his last control point and bagged himself a 5
minute penalty. He claims his logger beeped but the trace shows clearly
that he did not make a point inside the TP area which was parallel to
the track for the finish. Checking in SeeYou showed his recording
points just before and after the TP Tangent. Within these 10 seconds he
propably did fly into the Sector and out of it again.

Regards
Bruno

When I started analysing traces in 1993 (UK overseas Nationals) the
standard thing was to set it to 10 second sampling. It was very rare
not to have a point in the TP sector. However, it did happen and we
just pulled the films - which were always in (how can you prove 1m
accuracy on a photo?). Some pilots would increase the rate close to the
TP, or mark the trace as they turned in the sector. No doubt things
have moved on...

Dave Kearns
  #7  
Old August 17th 06, 06:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Frank Whiteley
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Default EW B-Model flight recorder


Dave K wrote:
Mottley wrote:

Hi there

not a good idea to set the rate at more than 5 sec. At the recent
Russian Qualifiying Grand Prix an experienced pilot had a sample rate
of 10sec and missed his last control point and bagged himself a 5
minute penalty. He claims his logger beeped but the trace shows clearly
that he did not make a point inside the TP area which was parallel to
the track for the finish. Checking in SeeYou showed his recording
points just before and after the TP Tangent. Within these 10 seconds he
propably did fly into the Sector and out of it again.

Regards
Bruno

When I started analysing traces in 1993 (UK overseas Nationals) the
standard thing was to set it to 10 second sampling. It was very rare
not to have a point in the TP sector. However, it did happen and we
just pulled the films - which were always in (how can you prove 1m
accuracy on a photo?). Some pilots would increase the rate close to the
TP, or mark the trace as they turned in the sector. No doubt things
have moved on...

Dave Kearns

There were some photos with the wingtip pointing at the turnpoint and
the buildings leaning the wrong way, only proving the glider was
somewhat inverted and possibly short of the turnpoint.

Frank Whiteley
(UK Opens photo, GPS, scoring team '93, '94)

  #8  
Old August 18th 06, 08:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Nigel Pocock
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Default EW B-Model flight recorder

At 17:54 17 August 2006, Frank Whiteley wrote:

Dave K wrote:
Mottley wrote:

Hi there

not a good idea to set the rate at more than 5 sec.
At the recent
Russian Qualifiying Grand Prix an experienced pilot
had a sample rate
of 10sec and missed his last control point and bagged
himself a 5
minute penalty.


Dont set the sampling rate to low with the model B.

On my first 300k attempt I set it at 5sec and ran out
of memory 2/3rd the way round. It then just stops
recording. Yes i was that slow it took me 5 1/2 hrs
altogether.
Nigel



  #9  
Old August 18th 06, 10:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dave K
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Default EW B-Model flight recorder

Frank Whiteley wrote:
There were some photos with the wingtip pointing at the turnpoint and
the buildings leaning the wrong way, only proving the glider was
somewhat inverted and possibly short of the turnpoint.

Frank Whiteley
(UK Opens photo, GPS, scoring team '93, '94)


I think Steve Jones was the winner for the most marginal logger points.
I think he managed 3 TPs in one flight with just one point in each sector.

Those early days of GPS analysis were fun - I remember doing the first
analysis of traces to get a 'wind at flying height' reading at Enstone
for the 93(?) Open Nationals and then getting phone calls a year or so
later from NZ asking for advice on this before they had their Worlds.

Only last year I found my multi-way lead that could connect to any type
of logger without changing leads...

I must be getting old.

Dave Kearns
  #10  
Old August 18th 06, 02:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Frank Whiteley
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Default EW B-Model flight recorder


Dave K wrote:
Frank Whiteley wrote:
There were some photos with the wingtip pointing at the turnpoint and
the buildings leaning the wrong way, only proving the glider was
somewhat inverted and possibly short of the turnpoint.

Frank Whiteley
(UK Opens photo, GPS, scoring team '93, '94)


I think Steve Jones was the winner for the most marginal logger points.
I think he managed 3 TPs in one flight with just one point in each sector.

Those early days of GPS analysis were fun - I remember doing the first
analysis of traces to get a 'wind at flying height' reading at Enstone
for the 93(?) Open Nationals and then getting phone calls a year or so
later from NZ asking for advice on this before they had their Worlds.

Only last year I found my multi-way lead that could connect to any type
of logger without changing leads...

I must be getting old.

Dave Kearns

I remember the first day of traces when the pilots ran out to Six Mile
Bottom then Hus Bos (furthest point). The traces showed some flying
1500ft above cloudbase. In particular I recall John Giddens flying the
ASW-22 north about to the Wash for 2 hours before landing at Hus Bos,
mostly in cloud. Then there was Graham Skelly's 'maggot racing'
program;^). Good times.

Frank Whiteley

 




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