An Olive Branch

Now that it appears that George Bush has been re-elected with a true
majority of the popular vote (the first president to do so in 16 years), let
me be the first to extend an olive branch to those here who may be
disappointed in the results.

What has made America strong, and allowed our democracy to thrive for over
200 years, is our ability to embrace the loyal opposition on election day.
We, as pilots, may be just as divided politically as the rest of the
country, but where we differ from the common electorate is in our shared
love of aviation.

This bond, in my opinion, transcends any fleeting election disagreements,
and I, for one, will be more than happy to see all this animosity evaporate,
so that we can get back to the fun of talking about flying!

Blue skies, all!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

This bond, in my opinion, transcends any fleeting election disagreements,
and I, for one, will be more than happy to see all this animosity
evaporate,
so that we can get back to the fun of talking about flying!

Blue skies, all!


Agreed! Four more years of Bush, like it or love it, that's the way it is.
Now back to our regularly scheduled program, "The Daily Grind".

Now, hopefully he won't get us all killed in that time...ooops, did I say
that

John K.
Student Pilot
Past, Present, and Future

Yeah,, okay. Gracefully accept the things one cannot change :0). I do want
to point out (despite the political 'clap-trap' you will hear) that the
United States is a Republic and NOT a democracy - the president (through
concerns by our founding fathers that the general populace wasn't bright
enough to make an informed vote ((they could still be right on this one
grin)) and also a concern by the less populous states that they would not
have an adequate voice ((even though more populous states get more
electors - go figure)) is determined by the members of the electoral
college, not by popular vote (which would make us a democracy).

Nothing to do about it now,,, you're right hopefully the fatherland,,, oops
I mean homeland security doesn't get any more out of hand... So, onward
and upward!

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Good Flights!

Cecil
PP-ASEL-IA
Student - CP-ASEL

Check out my personal flying adventures from my first flight to the
checkride AND the continuing adventures beyond!
Complete with pictures and text at: www.bayareapilot.com

"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery -

"We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with
this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"
- Cecil Day Lewis -

"Cecil Chapman" wrote in message
. com...
Yeah,, okay. Gracefully accept the things one cannot change :0)....
snip....

Nothing to do about it now,,, you're right hopefully... (...snip...)
...homeland security doesn't get any more out of hand... So, onward and
upward!

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On the security front, I found it interesting that the people most likely to
be affected by terrorism (the big cities)... especially New York City, and
in spite of Guiliani's. popularity... still voted overwhelmingly AGAINST
the incumbent???? (like 70%plus ... 80% in the case of The Bronx)

"Icebound" wrote in message
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On the security front, I found it interesting that the people most likely
to be affected by terrorism (the big cities)... especially New York
City, and in spite of Guiliani's. popularity... still voted
overwhelmingly AGAINST the incumbent???? (like 70%plus ... 80% in the
case of The Bronx)

That's because, as cities most likely to be affected by terrorism (and in
the case of NYC, to *have* been most affected by terrorism), the populace
actually understands the real risk versus benefit issues, and see how they
are a) not really much safer than they were before, b) not really in all
that much danger in the first place, and c) subject to additional
restrictions and scrutiny that are unwarranted.

The "selling fear to the voters" works best on people far enough removed
from the situation to not be able to sift fact from fiction.

Another factor is the move of the Republican party from being true
conservatives (which they used to be) to being basically front man for the
evangelical or fundamentilist Christians. Again, this demographic group is
not well-suited to high-density urban areas where there's a great amount of
diversity and open-mindedness.

Pete

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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Another factor is the move of the Republican party from being true
conservatives (which they used to be) to being basically front man for the
evangelical or fundamentilist Christians.

And yes, I know that's "fundamentalist". How embarassing...

Well said...


"Peter Duniho" wrote in
:

"Icebound" wrote in message
...
On the security front, I found it interesting that the people most
likely to be affected by terrorism (the big cities)... especially
New York City, and in spite of Guiliani's. popularity... still voted
overwhelmingly AGAINST the incumbent???? (like 70%plus ... 80% in the
case of The Bronx)

That's because, as cities most likely to be affected by terrorism (and
in the case of NYC, to *have* been most affected by terrorism), the
populace actually understands the real risk versus benefit issues, and
see how they are a) not really much safer than they were before, b) not
really in all that much danger in the first place, and c) subject to
additional restrictions and scrutiny that are unwarranted.

The "selling fear to the voters" works best on people far enough
removed from the situation to not be able to sift fact from fiction.

Another factor is the move of the Republican party from being true
conservatives (which they used to be) to being basically front man for
the evangelical or fundamentilist Christians. Again, this demographic
group is not well-suited to high-density urban areas where there's a
great amount of diversity and open-mindedness.

Pete

The 'security' stuff gets even more absurd when you listen to some people.
I've heard more than a few people tell me that the reason they were voting
for Bush was that the 'terrorists were afraid of him and that was why we
haven't had another 911'.

I always offer to these individuals the observation that our first terrorist
attack (of this magnitude) took place with G.W. in-office. Now, for the
previous 200 years we never had such a thing happen - did that mean that the
terrorists were really afraid of our previous presidents and less afraid of
G.W???. .... Jeesh...... Wasn't it R.W. Emerson who said " A foolish
consistency, is the hobgoblin of little minds".

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Good Flights!

Cecil
PP-ASEL-IA
Student - CP-ASEL

Check out my personal flying adventures from my first flight to the
checkride AND the continuing adventures beyond!
Complete with pictures and text at: www.bayareapilot.com

"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery -

"We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with
this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"
- Cecil Day Lewis -

Cecil Chapman wrote:
I always offer to these individuals the observation that our first terrorist
attack (of this magnitude) took place with G.W. in-office. Now, for the
previous 200 years we never had such a thing happen - did that mean that the
terrorists were really afraid of our previous presidents and less afraid of
G.W???. .... Jeesh...... Wasn't it R.W. Emerson who said " A foolish
consistency, is the hobgoblin of little minds".


Actually, the first attack was in '93, with the first bombing of the WTC.
The only reason the deathtoll was not higher was that they did it wrong.
Had the attack reached its goal of bringing down on of the towers, it would
have dwarfed 9/11, since it took place in mid-day, and there would not have
been an hour to escape the building.

So, did Emerson have a quote about "accuracy"?

Cecil Chapman wrote:

I always offer to these individuals the observation that our first
terrorist attack (of this magnitude) took place with G.W. in-office.

Ah, no. Oklahoma City. Your beloved Clinton. And we killed the
*******. NEXT!


" A foolish consistency, is the hobgoblin of little
minds".

Perhaps, but us little minded people are right.