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Old October 2nd 04, 10:38 AM
Bob Noel
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In article Yds7d.55101$He1.15875@attbi_s01, "William W. Plummer"
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How much will the FAA's legal team charge for pressing this suit?


better that than going after some poor sod sharing expenses
on a flight. :-/

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Old October 2nd 04, 01:54 PM
Roy Smith
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The FAA is proposing a civil penalty
of $33,000, the legal maximum, against
the city


What a joke. $33,000 may be a big fine to you or me, but to the City of
Chicago, it's chump change.
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Old October 2nd 04, 02:30 PM
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On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 08:54:50 -0400, Roy Smith wrote:

The FAA is proposing a civil penalty
of $33,000, the legal maximum, against
the city


What a joke. $33,000 may be a big fine to you or me, but to the City of
Chicago, it's chump change.


I've got to agree. Little Daley can punk this much out of the petty
cash without anyone asking questions. This reaction, although it
appears commendable, was long thought out by the Daley team prior to
their escapades. The only way to get this ******* back is to find
something else he's done that will put him in jail. Unfortunately
most people know little to nothing about the real workings of filthy
politics.

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Old October 4th 04, 12:38 AM
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Roy Smith wrote:

The FAA is proposing a civil penalty
of $33,000, the legal maximum, against
the city


What a joke. $33,000 may be a big fine to you or me, but to the City of
Chicago, it's chump change.



They lose more in the couch!

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Old October 2nd 04, 01:39 PM
Thomas Borchert
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Orval,

if anything, that fine is an encouragement to other cities wanting to
close their airports. Bad move, IMHO.

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Old October 2nd 04, 03:21 PM
David Reinhart
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Not so. The fine is the maximum allowed at the time. Since then the
Meigs Legacy provision has become law, and the maximum fine goes up to
$10,000/per day and the required notice goes up to 90 days. Nine million
may not have kept Chicago from ripping up Meigs, but there aren't many
cities that can afford that.

On top of that, Meigs is the only airport that had special provisions in
its grant assurances that let them off the hook. Not only would another
airport sponsor risk the larger fines, they'd also be responsible for
paying back AIP grant money, which could me tens of millions of dollars,
or more.

Dave Reinhart


Thomas Borchert wrote:

Orval,

if anything, that fine is an encouragement to other cities wanting to
close their airports. Bad move, IMHO.

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Old October 3rd 04, 01:20 AM
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David Reinhart writes:


On top of that, Meigs is the only airport that had special provisions in
its grant assurances that let them off the hook. Not only would another
airport sponsor risk the larger fines, they'd also be responsible for
paying back AIP grant money, which could me tens of millions of dollars,
or more.


And why did Meigs *not* have this constraint?

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Old October 3rd 04, 03:44 AM
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David Lesher wrote:

And why did Meigs *not* have this constraint?


According to AOPA articles, "In 1994, Daley announced plans to close the airport and
build a park in its place on Northerly Island. He could do that because of a unique
FAA grant agreement that gave him an "escape clause." While most federal grants to
airports specify that the airport must remain open 20 years, the Meigs grant
obligated the city to maintain the airport only for the length of its lease for the
land. Northerly Island was owned by the Chicago Park District, which refused to renew
the airport lease in 1996. Without the federal obligation in place, the airport
became private property."

George Patterson
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Old October 3rd 04, 02:01 PM
Matt Whiting
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David Lesher wrote:

David Reinhart writes:



On top of that, Meigs is the only airport that had special provisions in
its grant assurances that let them off the hook. Not only would another
airport sponsor risk the larger fines, they'd also be responsible for
paying back AIP grant money, which could me tens of millions of dollars,
or more.



And why did Meigs *not* have this constraint?


You really don't know much about Chicago do you? :-)

This is the corruption capital of the US. I'm sure some money greased
the right palms...


Matt

 




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