"bush flying" in the suburbs?

On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 18:01:54 GMT, "G.R. Patterson III"
wrote:

There're also bases on Greenwood lake and the Delaware, but both of those
are on State borders - I can't tell for sure if they're in NJ.

The one on the Delaware is in PA, I don't know about Greenwood Lake.
I also didn't know of all the bases in south Jersey either. I don't
remember seeing them on a sectional. Unfortunately PA is closer to
Andover than those places so the flight school Cub Driver is talking
about would still be better off going to PA.

Thanks for the info!
z

zatatime wrote:

I also didn't know of all the bases in south Jersey either. I don't
remember seeing them on a sectional.

They're all on the NY and DC sectionals and all are shown as private.

George Patterson
The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.

I fly one every day and it is a kool bird for short fields. Out here in
Jackson Hole Wy, the places are unlimited for landing spots.
Ben Haas N801BH

On 7 Dec 2004 23:28:53 -0800, wrote in
.com::

I fly one every day and it is a kool bird for short fields. Out here in
Jackson Hole Wy, the places are unlimited for landing spots.
Ben Haas N801BH

I wonder what the gross, useful, and payload weights might be?

On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 13:24:15 GMT, Larry Dighera
wrote:

On 7 Dec 2004 23:28:53 -0800, wrote in
s.com::

I fly one every day and it is a kool bird for short fields. Out here in
Jackson Hole Wy, the places are unlimited for landing spots.
Ben Haas N801BH

I wonder what the gross, useful, and payload weights might be?

Ben's Zenith is a bit out of the ordinary in a world where STOL's are
already off the beaten path. He has a lot of experience in racing,
and bolted an aluminum block V-8 to his firewall. He has a bit more
power than the Rotax powered Zenith's.

Corky Scott

wrote:
Among other aircraft I've been looking at the Zenith Air STOL CH 801
lately, which attracted my attention purely as an inexpensive and eaily
built plane to cart my family around. http://www.zenithair.com

But the advertised 390-ft fully-loaded ground roll got me fantasizing
about all the convenient places I could land with a STOL bush plane.
Somebody give me a reality check -- even in relatively densely
populated suburbs, there are a number of large open fields suitable for
a bush plane. As it happens there is one such within walking distance
of my parents' house in the northern D.C. suburbs, and there are other
flattish largish open spaces near other places I visit. Has anybody on
these newsgroups had any luck convincing random private landowners to
let them land on their unimproved property? Anybody even tried? Are
there likely to be local ordinances prohibiting intentional off-airport
landings in the suburbs? Lets just leave aside for the moment the
pesky little question of whether I'm qualified for this kind of
adventuring...



Don't the federal regulation forbid dropping under 500ft AGL over
someone else's property? I think the law is that anything below 500 is
the airspace of the private property owner (trying to remember the
details of an AOPA article I read a LONG time ago), and you would be
hard pressed to land anywhere in a suburb without crossing low over
someone who would take issue.

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instinct, and morality, to just sit back and watch people make
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"Ernest Christley" wrote in message
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Don't the federal regulation forbid dropping under 500ft AGL over someone
else's property?

Not even close.

I think the law is that anything below 500 is the airspace of the private
property owner

Property owners have no right of ownership of any sort with respect to the
airspace above their property.

Don't the federal regulation forbid dropping under 500ft AGL over someone
else's property?

Not even close.

The regs generally forbid flying an airplane less than 500 feet from
any structure or vessel, except for takeoff and landing.

Jose
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"Jose" wrote in message
m...
The regs generally forbid flying an airplane less than 500 feet from any
structure or vessel, except for takeoff and landing.

So what? Those regulations don't apply in congested areas (such as those
described by Ernest), and they don't apply during takeoffs and landings in
any case (the specific situation this entire thread is about).

The regs generally forbid flying an airplane less than 500 feet from any
structure or vessel, except for takeoff and landing.

So what? Those regulations don't apply in congested areas (such as those
described by Ernest), and they don't apply during takeoffs and landings in
any case (the specific situation this entire thread is about).

Over congested areas it's 1000 feet. And I stated "except for takeoff
and landing", which =is= what the thread is about. I was clarifying
what the reg is, not arguing that the reg prohibits takeoff or landing
outside an airport.

Jose
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