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Avgas Where is the ceiling?
Bob Noel wrote:
In article , wrote: Anything that burns using the oxygen from air produces oxides of nitrogen, i.e. smog. Burning Hydrogen would produce smog? -- Bob Noel Looking for a sig the lawyers will hate Yes, unless you can come up with a way to keep the nitrogen in the air out of the combustion process. Fuel cells, which run at temperatures below which the nitrogen oxides form don't have this problem, but any conventional engine, no matter what the fuel, does. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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Avgas Where is the ceiling?
"Matt Barrow" wrote in message ... ".Blueskies." wrote in message news:YJw2g.13688 The problem here is that we are continuing to pay those 'hidden' expenses and taxes while also paying the ever increasing costs of the gasolene. The prices are being driven by speculators, not by true demand, and the profits are exorbitant. China and India tripling and quadrupling their consumption is not a "true demand"? Insignificant at this point and not enough to justify the price of gasoline doubling in the last 2 1/2 years. USA is number 1 consumer by a long shot... http://www.bp.com/sectiongenericarti...n tId=7005897 |
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Martin Hotze wrote: 5 liter per 100 kilometers is on the better side for our cars here, 3l is very good, 10l is the upper limit, but exceeding up to 20l for larger SUVs etc. so the average car is at about 7l per 100 kilometers here in Europe. right now we pay about 1 Euro (germany about EUR 1,30) per liter diesel or unleaded 90 octane. Appreciate the "international" perspective, my friend, but, I seriously doubt folks on this side of the pond are going to do the math to convert the units and make sense of your data. |
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Avgas Where is the ceiling?
".Blueskies." wrote in message . com... "Matt Barrow" wrote in message ... ".Blueskies." wrote in message news:YJw2g.13688 The problem here is that we are continuing to pay those 'hidden' expenses and taxes while also paying the ever increasing costs of the gasolene. The prices are being driven by speculators, not by true demand, and the profits are exorbitant. China and India tripling and quadrupling their consumption is not a "true demand"? Insignificant at this point and not enough to justify the price of gasoline doubling in the last 2 1/2 years. USA is number 1 consumer by a long shot... http://www.bp.com/sectiongenericarti...n tId=7005897 Do you understand "Demand Forecasting"? |
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What's your "fair share"? Was: Avgas Where is the ceiling?
well, what are the alternatives? fighting those wars until some wacko hits
the red button and fires all those nukes (even firing one is enough)? what's next? get a broader view, please. The alternative is certainly not "giving everyone his fair share"...whatever THAT is. So, what ARE the altervnatives? The answer is simple: The Free Market. However, you are the one who said "give everyone his fair share" -- I presume of natural resources? You may wish to expand upon this a bit -- do you mean air? Water? Oil? Sunlight? Regardless, I believe we should start the conversation with the concepts of "worthiness" and "earning potential", as these are two areas that seem to continually baffle you. First, there is no one to "give" anything to ANYONE on this planet -- and for you to even start a debate with a statement like that illustrates a vast ignorance of the way the world's economy works. You EARN your way in the world's economy, and make yourself "worthy" of receiving ANY share. Second, there is no one to determine what a "fair" share of ANYTHING is on this planet -- and, again, for you to make a comment like that shows a remarkable naivete. In the world economy, each of us -- from countries to citizens -- EARNS what we receive, or, rather don't receive. Are their inequities in this system? You bet! Here's just one illustration of what happens when the Capitalist system isn't allowed to work: We've currently got a medical doctor staying at our hotel who runs a department at a very large medical center. Because he is a public employee, his salary is available on the web and is published in the newspaper each year. Imagine my surprise to discover that he personally, all by himself, received more compensation last year than the hotel generated, in total! He himself received more money than we received from ALL of our revenue sources, and he himself received more money than we paid out to ALL of our suppliers and employees COMBINED. Now, do I really think that this guy EARNED that much money? Nope -- not by a long shot. Our health care system in America is so screwed up by regulation and red tape that the capitalist system's vaunted efficiency has been completely wrung out of the equation. He is paid that absurd amount of money because the system is allowing that to happen -- not because he's "earning" it -- while at the same time new mothers are being sent home 18 hours after giving birth due to "budget constraints"... Now, at the other end of the scale, here is a similar LOOKING example that actually illustrates quite the opposite: The highest paid government official in Iowa, by far, is (believe it or not) the University of Iowa football coach, Kirk Ferentz. He is paid well over a million dollars per year, BEFORE all of his endorsement contracts, which boosts it to well over $2 million annually. Does he EARN that money? You bet! The Hawkeyes (the football team) bring in so much revenue that the University is able to fund ALL other college sports, from lacrosse to field hockey, from softball to track -- and still have money in the bank at the end. If Ferentz were failing, and the Hawkeyes weren't winning, the college would have to come up with $10 million annually (at least) to pay for all those other "lesser" sports -- so in a very real sense, Ferentz EARNS his money. Now scale this up to the national and international level. Is Austria EARNING it's "fair share" of natural resources? How about Kenya? Bangaladesh? If not, why not? Are they earning more than they're costing? As you can see, your statements about "fair share" lose their meaning rather quickly, in the real world. Bottom line: Earn it, and it's yours. Fail to earn it, and reap the consequences. Worse yet, mess with the free market economy, and end up with bloated, corrupt, over-paid bureaucrats -- like our vaunted doctor. And Europe. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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What's your "fair share"? Was: Avgas Where is the ceiling?
Jay Honeck wrote: However, you are the one who said "give everyone his fair share" -- I presume of natural resources? You may wish to expand upon this a bit -- do you mean air? Water? Oil? Sunlight? Living in the midwest I'm sure you'd like to know where the line forms to get your equal share of sunlight. You EARN your way in the world's economy, and make yourself "worthy" of receiving ANY share. Or form OPEC and artificially drive up the price. |
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Avgas Where is the ceiling?
On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 15:25:02 GMT, wrote:
snip Anything that burns using the oxygen from air produces oxides of nitrogen, i.e. smog. There are also the lubricants that are either burned or expelled, but modern engines have reduced these pollutants to extremely low levels. The gas engine in my wife's car runs a compression ratio of 13:1, yet is it listed as one of the lowest emitters of pollutants. Some call it a zero emitter, but that really means it has met Ca standards. What I find amazing is how they produce so little Nitrogen oxides with such a high compression ratio. (It does have variable cam timing) and the engine even shuts off if not needed. No idle at stop lights or even going down hill. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com -Elliott Drucker |
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Avgas Where is the ceiling?
On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 06:22:10 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
wrote: "Roger" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 14:59:33 GMT, ktbr wrote: Matt Barrow wrote: Last I heard, the US was a "democracy" (ie, representatives were elected), so if there's a problem, thank your friednds and neighbors. Actually, its supposed to be a representative republic not a true deomocracy. But anyway, I'm not convinced that the average voter Actually the US is a Republic that is governed as a representative democracy. today has necessary economic education to fully understand the issues I would say, "most voters", not the average voter does not have either the information or the ability to use it to the point of being able to make an intelligent choice. I would add that most voters have neither the information nor the ability to make sense of it, and DON'T HAVE THE INTERST in doing so. Hey, don't bother me, the ballgame is on... I'm sorry Matt. I was watching TV while you were typing. What were we talking about? sigh BTW There was a good program on tonight that started out showing some old photos of glaciers and then faded to the present view from the same location. Now that was eye opening! Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com |
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Avgas Where is the ceiling?
On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:53:00 -0000, Jim Logajan
wrote: "Jay Honeck" wrote: In case you haven't noticed, America doesn't conquer people. We come in, save your ass, and go home. If only that were true during all of our history, rather than the two World Wars. Because Native Americans may tend to disagree with both your statements: Although that is the politically correct term there is no such thing as Native Americans. Those called that merely got here before we did although that does nothing to the fact that we took the land away from them by armed force. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Wars And the U.S. took the area encompassing California and New Mexico as a result of the Mexican-American war: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_American_War Likewise, Puerto Rico and the Philipines were territorial conquests resulting from the Spanish-American war in which the U.S. "didn't go home": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish-American_War http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rico The U.S. did its best to not "go home" which was evident during the Philipine-American war: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philipine-American_War Lastly, the War of 1812 involved a failed attempt by the U.S. to take Canada: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasio...ada_%281812%29 |
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