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Old February 13th 04, 11:20 PM
Bob
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That is real info. What does balancing a tail rotor have to do with Main
Rotor Blades? I'm a maintenance guy who has bee ground running helicopters
for almost 20 years. By the way Main Rotor Blades is what helps to make it
a HELICOPTER. Which bunch of Yahoos are WE? Any PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION
that the PROFESSIONAL avaition community might be familiar with???


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Old February 14th 04, 03:07 PM
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"Bob" wrote in message
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That is real info. What does balancing a tail rotor have to do with Main
Rotor Blades? I'm a maintenance guy who has bee ground running

helicopters
for almost 20 years. By the way Main Rotor Blades is what helps to make

it
a HELICOPTER. Which bunch of Yahoos are WE? Any PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION
that the PROFESSIONAL avaition community might be familiar with???


You are missing the point. On 3180s & 315s one runs the machine without the
blades to centre a new servo. (If you don't have a hydraulic rig on site)
That is a standard practice. So one might as well do the tail rotor whilst
you are at it. AND Its a hell of a lot quicker than when the MRBs are
fitted. OK those machines have a clutch but I still say it would also be
quicker - and safer - to do maintenance runs on 350/355s, that did not
involve needing the MRBs, without them.

Slatts


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Old February 14th 04, 11:07 PM
me
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Sla#s wrote:

"Bob" wrote in message
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That is real info. What does balancing a tail rotor have to do with Main
Rotor Blades? I'm a maintenance guy who has bee ground running


helicopters

for almost 20 years. By the way Main Rotor Blades is what helps to make


it

a HELICOPTER. Which bunch of Yahoos are WE? Any PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION
that the PROFESSIONAL avaition community might be familiar with???



You are missing the point. On 3180s & 315s one runs the machine without the
blades to centre a new servo. (If you don't have a hydraulic rig on site)
That is a standard practice. So one might as well do the tail rotor whilst
you are at it. AND Its a hell of a lot quicker than when the MRBs are
fitted. OK those machines have a clutch but I still say it would also be
quicker - and safer - to do maintenance runs on 350/355s, that did not
involve needing the MRBs, without them.

Slatts




What does the manufacture have to say on this matter. They write the
maintenance manual.

rm


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Old February 16th 04, 06:54 PM
Sla#s
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"me" wrote in message
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What does the manufacture have to say on this matter. They write the
maintenance manual.


I'm checking the 350 manuals but nothing so far.

The running 315/3180 without blades was shown to us by the factory rep when
we first bought it.

Slatts


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Old February 17th 04, 12:14 AM
Eric D
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What does the manufacture have to say on this matter. They write the
maintenance manual.


I'm checking the 350 manuals but nothing so far.

The running 315/3180 without blades was shown to us by the factory rep when
we first bought it.

Slatts


Factory rep or not, if it isn't in one of the maintenance manuals as
one of the proceedures, you would be wise not to do it. One of the
concerns I would have is the affect on other components without the
inertia of the main rotors in the system. Could you unknowingly
damage something in the driveline? The manufacture is the best source
for figuring this type of thing out.

Eric D
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Old February 17th 04, 05:17 PM
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"Eric D" wrote in message
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What does the manufacture have to say on this matter. They write the
maintenance manual.


I'm checking the 350 manuals but nothing so far.

The running 315/3180 without blades was shown to us by the factory rep

when
we first bought it.

Slatts


Factory rep or not, if it isn't in one of the maintenance manuals as
one of the proceedures, you would be wise not to do it. One of the
concerns I would have is the affect on other components without the
inertia of the main rotors in the system. Could you unknowingly
damage something in the driveline? The manufacture is the best source
for figuring this type of thing out.


Yes, there is nothing in either manual.
I've checked with a couple of engineers who worked on Alouettes they all ran
them without blades. It's a standard procedure. (How else are you going to
change a servo in the field?)

Slatts


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Old February 18th 04, 02:31 AM
Eric D
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"Sla#s" wrote in message ...

Slatts


Factory rep or not, if it isn't in one of the maintenance manuals as
one of the proceedures, you would be wise not to do it. One of the
concerns I would have is the affect on other components without the
inertia of the main rotors in the system. Could you unknowingly
damage something in the driveline? The manufacture is the best source
for figuring this type of thing out.


Yes, there is nothing in either manual.
I've checked with a couple of engineers who worked on Alouettes they all ran
them without blades. It's a standard procedure. (How else are you going to
change a servo in the field?)

Slatts


Slatts,

From your last posting see UK in the link above. I had thought you
were located here in the US. Sorry.

In the US, to be a standard maintenance procedure it better be in the
current maintenance manual. Short of that, it needs to be in a,
Service Bulletin, Advisory Directive or some type of written process
from the manufacture in order to be acceptable to the FAA. Performing
any maintenance without something acceptable to the FAA and you are
setting yourself up for loss of license and possible legal liability.

Sorry to say I have no suggestion to help you find what you are
looking for.

Eric D
 




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