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Landing on one wheel
This is fun stiring the pot! OK ...how many of you practice doing a
one wheel touch and go from time to time. And I don't mean by accident. I did it all the time with tailwheel students, and still do it with students in 172's. We frequently get winds that are 15 G25 90 to the runway and topography that makes the winds squirrly as hell on the west end. Learning good crosswind techniques are vital. I recognize different techniques are needed for different aircraft with wing clearance, etc but I still did them with lots of different low wing aircraft like Piper Pawnee, Cessna Ag Husky, Ag Cat, Stearman, Thrush and so on. Ol S&B |
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Used to do that with my T-Craft... Land on one wheel, hop gently over
to the other wheel without having both touch, and back and forth, finally add power and go around when out of runway... Simpler times... I used to fly for $2.90 an hour, gas and oil.... denny |
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Ol Shy & Bashful wrote:
This is fun stiring the pot! OK ...how many of you practice doing a one wheel touch and go from time to time. And I don't mean by accident. I did it all the time with tailwheel students, and still do it with students in 172's. We frequently get winds that are 15 G25 90 to the runway and topography that makes the winds squirrly as hell on the west end. Learning good crosswind techniques are vital. I recognize different techniques are needed for different aircraft with wing clearance, etc but I still did them with lots of different low wing aircraft like Piper Pawnee, Cessna Ag Husky, Ag Cat, Stearman, Thrush and so on. Ol S&B We had occasion one time to loan Miss America to Bob Hoover to use for his demonstration. His P51 had been damaged in a forced landing the day before. The only stipulation we placed on his use of the airplane was that he not do any one wheel landings. It was strongly felt by all of us that these "landings" if not directly, at least have a strong potential to place undue stress on the main gear leg and attach points where the wheel meets the axle. True, this was our personal choice, but I would still feel this way today. I've never actually asked Bob to clarify the issue by disclosing if he ever had maintanence done on the main gear oleos on his 51, so to be fair, it was then and is as I write this an open issue and simply a matter of opinion. -- Dudley Henriques |
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Ol Shy & Bashful wrote:
This is fun stiring the pot! OK ...how many of you practice doing a one wheel touch and go from time to time. And I don't mean by accident. I did it all the time with tailwheel students, and still do it with students in 172's. We frequently get winds that are 15 G25 90 to the runway and topography that makes the winds squirrly as hell on the west end. Learning good crosswind techniques are vital. I recognize different techniques are needed for different aircraft with wing clearance, etc but I still did them with lots of different low wing aircraft like Piper Pawnee, Cessna Ag Husky, Ag Cat, Stearman, Thrush and so on. Ol S&B Well, I always use the slip approach method so if whatever it takes to stay on the center line results in a one wheel landing, that's what happens. I never considered it to be anything special. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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On Mar 18, 8:04 am, Dudley Henriques wrote:
Ol Shy & Bashful wrote: This is fun stiring the pot! OK ...how many of you practice doing a one wheel touch and go from time to time. And I don't mean by accident. I did it all the time with tailwheel students, and still do it with students in 172's. We frequently get winds that are 15 G25 90 to the runway and topography that makes the winds squirrly as hell on the west end. Learning good crosswind techniques are vital. I recognize different techniques are needed for different aircraft with wing clearance, etc but I still did them with lots of different low wing aircraft like Piper Pawnee, Cessna Ag Husky, Ag Cat, Stearman, Thrush and so on. Ol S&B We had occasion one time to loan Miss America to Bob Hoover to use for his demonstration. His P51 had been damaged in a forced landing the day before. The only stipulation we placed on his use of the airplane was that he not do any one wheel landings. It was strongly felt by all of us that these "landings" if not directly, at least have a strong potential to place undue stress on the main gear leg and attach points where the wheel meets the axle. True, this was our personal choice, but I would still feel this way today. I've never actually asked Bob to clarify the issue by disclosing if he ever had maintanence done on the main gear oleos on his 51, so to be fair, it was then and is as I write this an open issue and simply a matter of opinion. -- Dudley Henriques Pretty hard to damage the gear on a Citabria doing that. They're stout, to withstand the abuses of the novice. I've done the one-wheel thing with students in the past, students who are having trouble transitioning to the taildragger. The one-wheel touch-and-go teaches them to fly the airplane ALL the time, not just until touchdown like they tend to do in a trike. It also develops strong crosswind skills. After that, they're careful in trikes, too, since now they know that the airplane really isn't finished flying until it's tied down. Every so often you hear of another 172 or something that came to grief after the pilot made a successful touchdown, only to lose it in the rollout. Dan |
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On Mar 18, 5:26*am, "Ol Shy & Bashful" wrote:
This is fun stiring the pot! OK ...how many of you practice doing a one wheel touch and go from time to time. And I don't mean by accident. I did it all the time with tailwheel students, and still do it with students in 172's. We frequently get winds that are 15 G25 90 to the runway and topography that makes the winds squirrly as hell on the west end. Learning good crosswind techniques are vital. I recognize different techniques are needed for different aircraft with wing clearance, etc but I still did them with lots of different low wing aircraft like Piper Pawnee, Cessna Ag Husky, Ag Cat, Stearman, Thrush and so on. Ol S&B I have yet to do it on purpose, but I would like to! Phil |
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Ol Shy & Bashful wrote:
This is fun stiring the pot! OK ...how many of you practice doing a one wheel touch and go from time to time. And I don't mean by accident. A friend of mine got a nasty surprise when he tried this on a dirt strip a few years back. I had already landed and was shooting some video of him doing one-wheel T&Gs in his 182. After 4 of these (2 on each wheel) he landed. When I looked at the outboard leading edge of the elevator, there was a hole showing. Seems the dirt and pebbles coming off the main gear shot straight back to the elevator and sandblasted a hole in the thin material (can't remember if it was thin metal or plastic). Fortunately, he had some 200 Kt. metalized duct tape on hand to get him home. John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180) -- Message posted via http://www.aviationkb.com |
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john smith wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote: The spring type one piece main gear legs are as you say much better suited to taking any side loads that might be imposed then an oleo leg. In this scenario, the principal negative is excessive tire wear due to scrubbing. Ah! But what about the wheelpants? :-)) My guess would be that if a pilot is catching a pant while attempting a one wheel landing, that pilot is in wind WAY over their head :-)))) -- Dudley Henriques |
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On Mar 18, 2:53 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
john smith wrote: Dudley Henriques wrote: The spring type one piece main gear legs are as you say much better suited to taking any side loads that might be imposed then an oleo leg. In this scenario, the principal negative is excessive tire wear due to scrubbing. Ah! But what about the wheelpants? :-)) My guess would be that if a pilot is catching a pant while attempting a one wheel landing, that pilot is in wind WAY over their head :-)))) -- Dudley Henriques Might explain the Lufthansa incident.... ;-) |
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